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Re: Guy's Forum
« Reply #450 on: March 01, 2012, 11:14:54 AM »
Please, jbaent, that calendar was not real. I invented it. Some of it is accurate but I wrote the rest of it without checking. As pottel has said, it was only an example.

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Re: Guy's Forum
« Reply #451 on: March 01, 2012, 11:21:25 AM »
Sounded logical to me, pretty close to what really happened, I didnt checked either but made sense to me...
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Re: Guy's Forum
« Reply #452 on: March 01, 2012, 01:15:53 PM »
I tried to make it as logical as possible but some of it is invention.  If you get the chance and the time to amend it where it is wrong or misleading, that would be great.

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Re: Guy's Forum
« Reply #453 on: March 01, 2012, 02:44:35 PM »
RE: "Where lucidity reigns, a scale of values becomes unnecessary" (in Post # 449):

I thought I remembered where I found the above quotation, checked and it was there. I found it in a book entitled "Jazz - Its Evolution and Essence" by Andre Hodeir. The translation of the text appears to date from 1956, as published by The Grove Press, but I have it in a 1961 paperback published by Black Cat. I probably bought 45 years ago , so the paper is beginning to go yellow and one or two pages are working their way loose. DOWNBEAT said it was "The best analytical book on jazz ever written", which sums it up well. That probably explains why "Where lucidity reigns, a scale of values becomes unnecessary" appears on the title page for the INTRODUCTION section.

So I've now done a bit of scouting on-line. It looks like you can upload the book here:

http://www.archive.org/stream/jazzitsevolution000731mbp/jazzitsevolution000731mbp_djvu.txt

Or you can read it here from the original Grove edition:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/59493293/Andre-Hodeir-Jazz-its-evolution-and-essence

The quotation is attributed to Albert Camus but I have no idea which of his works it comes from. Everywhere I look, it comes back to Hodeir's book, not the original source. If anyone can locate the original Camus source, that would be of interest to me.

Some of the Hodeir book will be a touch difficult to read for those less interested in jazz but some of his comments have a link to the wider arts in general, including popular music . For example, the chapter "Notes on the Problem of Creation", whilst about jazz and using terms not politically correct these days, discusses drawing on the past and the work of one's forebears and developing one's own style, with reference to both art and jazz. Some of the commentary applies to other forms of music, too.

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Re: Guy's Forum
« Reply #454 on: March 01, 2012, 03:12:49 PM »
I decided to translate it and check quotation in French and it is from Albert Camus' "The Myth of Sisyphus" which is a book, as I recall, mentioned by David Blue in the Dylan film "Renaldo And Clara". It's funny how these things loop round.



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Re: Guy's Forum
« Reply #455 on: March 01, 2012, 03:14:28 PM »
Hey, twm,

It's from "The Myth of Sisyphus":

 and would be in another translation:  Where lucidity dominates, the scale of values becomes useless

It is nearly at the end of the text, the last two or three pages you will find it, depends on what print you use.
If you have a copy of it, you will find it.

LE
 


 

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Re: Guy's Forum
« Reply #456 on: March 01, 2012, 03:15:05 PM »
Oh, sorry, too late...

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Re: Guy's Forum
« Reply #457 on: March 01, 2012, 08:40:23 PM »
Thanks, anyway, LE. As I have often had cause to say to people in the past, I'd rather hear something twice than not at all.

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Re: Guy's Forum
« Reply #458 on: March 02, 2012, 12:14:41 PM »
Hi everyone! Guy uploaded the diary 6:

http://www.guyfletcher.co.uk/index.php/2011MKStudio/Diary_Page_6

not too much info for now but Guy is Guy ;D

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Re: Guy's Forum
« Reply #459 on: March 02, 2012, 12:22:41 PM »
Yeah, but hey, Ruth Moody

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Re: Guy's Forum
« Reply #460 on: March 02, 2012, 12:25:06 PM »

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Re: Guy's Forum
« Reply #461 on: March 02, 2012, 01:20:26 PM »
double cd anyone? or a box with unreleased gems on top of that?....aaaahhh.. ;D
any Knopfler, Floyd or Dylan will do....

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Re: Guy's Forum
« Reply #462 on: March 02, 2012, 01:26:45 PM »
Yeah a whole box, please. And priced accordingly to these huge boxes that a certain Mr. Rea from Middlesbrough is launching since "Blue Guitars"....
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Re: Guy's Forum
« Reply #463 on: March 02, 2012, 01:29:43 PM »
A mention for Glyn Johns, still working hard since the hazy days with The Beatles!

There's so much gorgeous equipment in those photos, what a studio.
Hey, i`ve got a truffle dog - finally a song the ordinary man can relate too!

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Re: Guy's Forum
« Reply #464 on: March 02, 2012, 08:34:49 PM »
Guy referred to seeing Ian again in the studio...followed with this.."He left with the tunes in his head looking forward to our next meeting later in the year. More on that soon.". Sounds like tour rehearsals to me  ;D.
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