Concert #14:2011.10.25, SAP Arena, Mannheim, DE, # SPOILER AHEAD #

[superval99]

From what I have gathered from Guy's diaries, Bob tells Mark, or sends a note  on the afternoon of the concert, which songs they will play together and then Charley and Mark do a quick run-through!   It must be quite difficult for someone, like MK, who is such a perfectionist and likes everything to run smoothly. 

[Love Expresso]

Again, I might be allowed to quote my sister when she said about the Munich show that Mark looked a little lost on stage with Bob, always trying to make
eye contact with Bob's band or trying to get some interaction and didn't get any. He was looking clearly stressed and had obviously a little trouble to get along with them.. As Guy said, it is obviously very loud on Bob's stage, so Mark maybe had some trouble with that, too. Left me pitiful to hear that, and
maybe that was the reason for only three songs together at that night, too?

LE

[Mossguitar]

I am 100 % sure that there is no problem for MK to play with Bob's band without preparing much. I think you get it all wrong. A musician of MK's caliber is perfectly capable of playing the relatively simple songs of Bob Dylan. If you have read GF's diary, you would have read that MK already knows the songs. The reason why MK prepare and arrange his own shows had nothing to do with what he is capable of or comfortable with, but with what he wants to do. What he likes. How he wants his own music to be performed and sound. It's like an ideology. And if you look at MK's face when he performs his own well rehearsed and prepared material, he doesn't look too comfortable unless he smiles, even though I bet he is.

[Pottel]

he looks focused and concentrated, not stressed...if anything he looks happy...

[Love Expresso]

Well, I have no doubt that MK is enjoying what he is doing at the moment, I was reporting about the Munich show, and as it fitted with my own observations form Oberhausen partially, I thought it worth writing about. I have no doubts about Mark's musical abilities, it was more about the circumstances, mainly the high volume on stage - and, if anything,  the missing interaction with the other band members which we know MK needs and loves so much.

Mossguitar, you are a musician yourself I understand, so I am sure you will have a much better judgment about it. I have never been on any stage myself.

LE

[Justme]

It was very interesting when GF said that MK knows all of his (BD) songs. Maybe MK is a getalifer himself and collects all bootlegs of his bobness? 

Only kidding, but I assume that he is concentrating very hard on stage with Bob, being the perfectionist he is, I guess he doesn't feel THAT well with Bob's punkrock approach to his own songs.

[joko]

Again, I might be allowed to quote my sister when she said about the Munich show that Mark looked a little lost on stage with Bob, always trying to make
eye contact with Bob's band or trying to get some interaction and didn't get any. He was looking clearly stressed and had obviously a little trouble to get along with them.. As Guy said, it is obviously very loud on Bob's stage, so Mark maybe had some trouble with that, too. Left me pitiful to hear that, and
maybe that was the reason for only three songs together at that night, too?

LE

I agree totally .... I had similar impressions. The overall sound was too loud ... especially Bob's guitar playing (or whatsoever that should be) and also his voice. Imo Mark's playing was difficult to hear. After the three songs there was no thanks from Bob to Mark ... on the contrary, Mark clapped Bob on the shoulder leaving the stage.  Very strange (unrespectful) behaviour from Bob ...

[Pottel]

you do not know what bob may have said joko...

[Jules]

you do not know what bob may have said joko...

Maybe something like gfghdhksdkljfhsdf?

 

[joko]

you do not know what bob may have said joko...

I mean there was no official thanks from Bob to Mark in front the crowd ... like Mark thanked Bob for his inviting.

Maybe something like gfghdhksdkljfhsdf?
 

Does Mark understand this dialect ?   

[dustyvalentino]

It's a few weeks since I saw the show, so I'm not certain about this, but I think Bob still uses old-school wedge monitors, as opposed to MK using in ear monitors for a long time now, a big difference on stage.

[ds1984]

After the three songs there was no thanks from Bob to Mark ... on the contrary, Mark clapped Bob on the shoulder leaving the stage.  Very strange (unrespectful) behaviour from Bob ...

Do you really think that if Bob was not respectful, Mark would accept to play on stage anymore with him?
Yes maybe strange behaviour, non conventional, but should we interpret this as unrespectful from Bob?

[joko]

After the three songs there was no thanks from Bob to Mark ... on the contrary, Mark clapped Bob on the shoulder leaving the stage.  Very strange (unrespectful) behaviour from Bob ...

Do you really think that if Bob was not respectful, Mark would accept to play on stage anymore with him?
Yes maybe strange behaviour, non conventional, but should we interpret this as unrespectful from Bob?

in my view .... yes. Why can't be expected, that Bob says few words about Mark in front of the crowd ...  i.e after Mark enters or before Mark leaves the stage ? Would not be really difficult ... but respectful.

[Hophead]

After the three songs there was no thanks from Bob to Mark ... on the contrary, Mark clapped Bob on the shoulder leaving the stage.  Very strange (unrespectful) behaviour from Bob ...

Do you really think that if Bob was not respectful, Mark would accept to play on stage anymore with him?
Yes maybe strange behaviour, non conventional, but should we interpret this as unrespectful from Bob?

Seeing that Mark has known and worked with Bob on occasion since 1979...suffice it to say that I'm sure that he knows what to expect from Bob. Respectful or not (as it may appear to us) I'm sure that Mark is perfectly fine with it. As for him appearing uncomfortable on stage...he was probably watching the band members for the changes coming up. 

[Pottel]

bob's band does it all the time.
the best part in oberhausen was where bob pulled back for like a minute or so, just watching his band...funny moment, as he really kinda "pulled out" and enjoyed the scenery..