Concert #14:2011.10.25, SAP Arena, Mannheim, DE, # SPOILER AHEAD #

[marc96er]

Of course, only a former professional photographer can take such a perfect picture!  

Hard job, but had to be done...
Actually, between the two pictures are about 30 min, right?
Same camera, same people....but....
And, your request was to have the coaches and trucks depicted too....So...do you see the difference?  
Ok, ok. I shut up!  

Of course I see the difference: When you took the picture, we both were smiling! 

[Mr Young at Heart]

I agree that, based on the Bournemouth show I attended, it was pretty much a bluesy-rock approach throughout from Dylan but it's another development, another phase in his stage career. Recently, we've had almost none of the country-based style that peppered his sets not too long ago.  At some shows, apparently, he has done the occasional ballad, such as "Nettie Moore". Personally, I'd wish he would do at least a couple of these at every show.

Roughly half the 42 songs performed so far on this tour come from the 1963 - 1974 period and, when you've played 100 shows a year for the last 23 years or more, you really do have to vary things a bit to stay interested. And you try to find something new and different in songs you've sung hundreds of times.

Dylan is less concerned about technical perfection and more concerned with "feel" and the moment. There are flubs even on some of his official releases but he keeps them in, if he judges that the particular take selected matches best what he is trying to put over in the lyrics. Some might regard this as slapdash (comical, even) but it has resulted in a body of work nonpareil for a solo artist in the last 50 years. As an example, we are told, by those who have heard the session tapes for BLONDE ON BLONDE, that he recorded several different versions of most of the songs: some slower; some faster; some in different keys; and so on. It was described by someone as being more like the recording session of a jazz musician.  He has often bemoaned the current recording techniques by which recordings are constructed, element by element, to produce the finished product. He much prefers to record "live" in the studio (or, at least, as "live" as possible). He likes that kind of sponaneity.

Yup.

[Mr Young at Heart]

... this sounds so disorganized that it is bordering on comical.

For sure that, and, you bet, that's even intended. Bob has always been a comedian, the Charlie Chaplin of Rock'n Roll...

[Jackal]

... this sounds so disorganized that it is bordering on comical.

For sure that, and, you bet, that's even intended. Bob has always been a comedian, the Charlie Chaplin of Rock'n Roll...

Each to his own then.

I think that's a big shame, because some of his studio recordings contain some true gems, musically speaking. If he could have transferred some of that to the stage, AND fueled them with the current energy, it could have lifted his shows of out of the "bar-room bawl" situation ...

[sak4]

OK, I admit, my son and I enjoyed the complete show, MK, BD w/ MK, BD w/o MK. Perfect night for us. (My wife enjoyed MK and BD w/ MK and did endure the rest...)

And so, yes, the double bill makes sense. Beside the hardcore MK fans who dislike Bob (too loud, too crooked, can't play, can't sing, don't talk, all that...) and the hardcore Bob-Cats who find MK just too boring and predictable there are Bob fans like me who are MK fans too (although I am not that familiar with his complete oevre whereas I recognize almost every Dylan song most of the time before he start singing [or barking]) and who are more than glad to be given the opportunity of seeing both in one show. And Mark joining Bob on stage for more and more songs is really worth it, alone...

Right, I like your style, tongue in cheek but still making a point.  Open minded too.

Nice one YAH


 

[superval99]

A review of the Mannheim concert:


http://www.buerstaedter-zeitung.de/region/rhein-neckar/11299240.htm

[Mr Young at Heart]

OK, I admit, my son and I enjoyed the complete show, MK, BD w/ MK, BD w/o MK. Perfect night for us. (My wife enjoyed MK and BD w/ MK and did endure the rest...)

And so, yes, the double bill makes sense. Beside the hardcore MK fans who dislike Bob (too loud, too crooked, can't play, can't sing, don't talk, all that...) and the hardcore Bob-Cats who find MK just too boring and predictable there are Bob fans like me who are MK fans too (although I am not that familiar with his complete oevre whereas I recognize almost every Dylan song most of the time before he start singing [or barking]) and who are more than glad to be given the opportunity of seeing both in one show. And Mark joining Bob on stage for more and more songs is really worth it, alone...

Right, I like your style, tongue in cheek but still making a point.  Open minded too.

Nice one YAH


 

Thank ya.

[Pottel]

A review of the Mannheim concert:


http://www.buerstaedter-zeitung.de/region/rhein-neckar/11299240.htm

harsh review for bob
Der eine hui, der andere ... leider nicht. Beim Gipfeltreffen der Rock-Legenden Mark Knopfler und Bob Dylan in der Mannheimer SAP-Arena sieht sich das Publikum mit zwei Protagonisten konfrontiert, die l

[superval99]

It makes me wonder if some of these journalists are actually at the gig!   One of the reviews I read said MK played MFN!   Another said that Bob and his band looked sharp and well-dressed, whereas Mark looked as though he had just come from rehearsal, wearing jeans and a WHITE shirt!   In fact he was wearing a black one!   

[arabia]

I've frequently read reviews of various concerts I've been to over the years and have thought "there is no way we both saw and heard the same show!"

[ds1984]

Same.

I know from a journalist that some actualy only give at some time a quick look in the house and then spend rest of the show at the bar.

[superval99]

A couple of videos from Mannheim:

Mississippi:



John Brown:

[Jules]

In all the videos I see this very same situations

- MK looking probably at Glenn Saggers and asking about something related with his guitar (not plugged, low volume, whatever)

- MK looking at Charlie Sexton wondering in which scale he must to play and what he must to play

[superval99]

Jbaent,   I loved both of these songs, especially John Brown, and I thought MK's solos were beautiful!  I think he's still feeling his way with BD and the band, because he has had such short notice and I think he has done a great job!   

[dmg]

In the 1987 RAH shows with EC the songs and solos sounded well rehearsed and nothing to chance and much was the same in early '88.  However, I think in the N. American tour later in the year the shows were much better and some arrangements changed. 

So back to today then (!) and what I am saying is that obviously a lot of rehearsal went into even the early '87 shows with EC, but no rehearsal was done with Bob at all before the tour which I find astonishing quite frankly.  I'm not going to point any fingers at who's to blame bacause I don't know how the business works but one would have thought they would have ran through a few tunes.