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Re: The Unknown Greats
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2011, 08:24:35 AM »
and of course, there's Rayland Baxter, who I have just fallen madly in love with after Richard Bennett posted this song on Facebook (his son plays guitar on this track)

 


He has no CD out (yet?) but a EP which can be downloaded here.

http://www.mediafire.com/?s07e2ahj7xoy0bg




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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2011, 08:42:41 AM »
I think I just fell in love with Annie Sellick, what a beautiful woman.

Tommy showing his virtuosity again, but he really could benefit loads by a slow build when he solos - TOL or TR style - Tommy just goes for all the tricks straight away, amazing to watch though.
Nice thread Jackal, about to check the other vids...

Yeah, she's fantastic.

As for Tommy, a modicum of moderation at times would certainly make his music (even) more interesting in terms of listening. The razzmatazz does wear off eventually.

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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2011, 08:49:23 AM »
Another guy I really like, except the blonde hair  ;D . Amazing player.

 

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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2012, 03:02:41 PM »
Check out this vocalist. Amazing. Spotted her first on a YouTube clip with Springsteen guitarist Nils Lofgren. Lots of long clips on this page:


http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/maredmond3dd

http://www.marb.com/

Mary Ann Redmond

 
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Re: The Unknown Greats
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2012, 07:04:56 PM »
Jackal, where do you find these names/peeps?
any Knopfler, Floyd or Dylan will do....

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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2012, 07:26:24 PM »
Jackal, where do you find these names/peeps?

Basically by always wondering who this and that person might be. And by YT's suggestions  :)

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Re: The Unknown Greats
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2012, 02:42:13 AM »
I don't know the definition of "unknown" or "great" either but, nevertheless, this thread is a good idea. I shall do my very best to find time to listen to and/or watch as many of the recommendations as pI can fit in.

What about a few old stagers? Or some off-the-wall characters? Or some simply unusual material?



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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2012, 02:51:10 PM »
TWM, Everything is relative, but I started the thread to draw attention to musicians and artists who are skilled and talented, but not famous or well known. I'd say the artists presented so far in this thread give a good indication of what I was thinking about (i.e. Claptons, Dylans, Knopflers).

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Re: The Unknown Greats
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2012, 06:35:35 PM »

You probably know Jo Ann Kelly. She is fantastic!



And another great, Karen Dalton!
Come on, it is not funny anymore.

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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2012, 01:51:19 AM »
I had this memory of seeing Jo-Ann Kelly once but couldn't place it, so I dug out a few old pocket diaries and found the date. It was on 30 March 1967 at the Gaslight Folk Club - not the one in Greenwich Village but one that was held in a pub on Highgate Hill in London. I'm pretty certain the pub was called Ye Old Crown but, when I looked that up on-line, it wasn't at all like my memory of the place. In fact, googling around, my memory is more of the Duke's Head further up the hill. I went to both so I've probably conflated the two places in my mind.

Anyway, the Gaslight Folk Club was set up by Bruce May, who I knew from college, for his brother, who was Ralph May and in the proces of becoming Ralph McTell, in honour of Blind Willie ditto. I was member 007 of the club, which I think was some kind of joke.  Cliff Aungier was also on that night. He was a good singer, a good South London friend of both Mays and had a contract with Decca.

It's fun looking through old diaries. The previous week (possibly the opening night of the club), there was Ralph May/McTell, Cliff Aungier, Roy Harper and Ron Geesin. Also Henry (Bartlett?) who had run a sort-of jug band that Ralph had been a member of along with Jaqui McShee who went on to join Pentangle. I had only seen Roy Harper once before that, the previous Sunday at the Enterprise Folk Club opposite Chalk Farm tube station. The principal singer that night was Nigel Denver (a Scottish singer with a powerful voice, left-wing views and a big acapacity for the booze - he also had a contract with Decca and I'd once booked him for the college folk club and we'd met several times over the months). Roy Harper, as they say, sang from the floor. I'd not heard of him before and he had apparently just returned from Denmark. He probably did only three songs but I only remember the one where he sang into the hole in the guitar's soundbox so that the strings, untouched by his fingers, resonated in an eerie way - I think the song was about a night in a graveyard.

The week after I saw Jo-Ann Kelly at the Galsight, I saw John Renbourne there and he was joined by Jacqui (McShee) but Roy Harper also turned upthat night.  A few days later, I was at the Saturday all-nighter at Les Cousins in Soho for The Young Tradition (these three lived in the same North London house, different flat, as Bert Jansch and John Renbourne at the time). Al Stewart also performed that night and, lo and behold, Roy Harper turned up again. He was probably trying to get himself known enough by club organisers to get (paid) bookings in his own right. It must have worked because, less than three weeks later, he was back at the Gaslight as the headline singer and I saw him once again.

And I can't resist saying that, the very next night (12 May 1967), I was at the Queen Elizabeth Hall on the South Bank for "Games For May", Pink Floyd's first major London gig, I think. I may even still have my ticket somewhere.
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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2012, 11:51:43 AM »
omg ,....games for may is legendary shit...
ticket?? pls bring it on (as in scan somehow)
also, roy harper has a strong floys connection of course..
any Knopfler, Floyd or Dylan will do....

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« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2012, 02:22:26 PM »
Yes, I have found my ticket - it calls them The Pink Floyd.

As I left the venue, in one of the public areas, they had several piles of handbills for their various concerts, including "Games For May" that I was just leaving. I gathered up a whole selection, most of which I used to decorate the walls of my flat. However, quite a few years ago, I found a few "Games For May" ones that I hadn't used, maybe 5 or 6 in total. This was either before or in the early years of home computers, so I ended up selling them, as a batch, to a Pink Floyd trader. I can't remember how much I got but it financed Bob Dylan collecting for quite a while. I was wise enough to make colour photocopies, so I could scan one of those, if you wish.

I wasn't a big fan of early Floyd but liked them enough to go see them when they played near me.

12 December 1966: The Roundhouse at Chalk Farm was close to my flat, so I went to this:
http://www.angelfire.com/wv/breastmilky/enealiansmith.html
In my diary, I wrote "Roundhouse happening - P.T.O." on the Saturday and, having turned the page, wrote "Psychodelphia v. Ian Smith" on the Sunday, as I arrived late and it went on well past midnight.

8 April 1967: Roundhouse, Chalk Farm, "Pink Floyd, The Flies, etc" says my diary
Added in later

12 May 1967: "Games For May" at Queen Elizabeth Hall (as mentioed already)

3 May 1968: Westfield College dance. This was fairly near where Janet stayed and we had a meal at her place and walked along to the college. We knew some people who were studying there and I can recall one or two people free-form dancing all round the hall in one of Floyd's musical "interludes".

That's three but I think I've missed one - Roundhouse - Floyd and The Flies - maybe a false memory
Modified: Not a false memory, found it and inserted it in the above listing
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« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2012, 04:21:16 PM »
I've amended my previous posting to add in the fourth of those four early shows. I have never seen Pink Floyd live since then.

However, on 14 December 1967, we did go to see "Tonight Let's All Make Love In London", which was shown with "Dutchman". The latter was good and I subsequently bought the play script.

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« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2012, 04:55:55 PM »
Since knowing nothing about The Flies, despite having seen them , I decided to do a search and found this:-

Biography

by Richie Unterberger

The minor British band the Flies are most well-known for a couple of things, neither of which entirely prepares listeners for the pretty average brand of pop-psychedelia on most of their recordings. One is their debut single, "(I'm Not Your) Stepping Stone," issued at the end of 1966, which is a hard rock treatment of a number more associated with the Monkees, but with plenty of crunching fuzz guitar. It wasn't a hit, but it did start to get the Flies a reputation among psychedelic collectors after being included in the very first compilation of rare British psychedelia, Chocolate Soup for Diabetics. The other thing they're notorious for are their sometimes outrageous live performances, particularly their appearance at the 14-Hour Technicolour Dream psychedelic festival in April 1967 in London, where they arranged to have hundreds of bags of flour explode and cover the audience at the end of their set.

The Flies grew out of an East London band called the Rebs, and in 1965 they recorded a British Invasion exploitation album under the name of the In-Sect, all but one of the songs on the LP being covers of contemporary hits. By the end of 1966 they were signed to Decca and were recording as the Flies, though they issued only a couple of singles for the label. Arguably, their version of "(I'm Not Your) Stepping Stone" is overrated, and not particularly psychedelic, What's more, it wasn't too typical of their output, which on the Decca singles, at least, was filled out by unmemorable pop and pop-psych numbers with prominent vocal harmonies, in the manner of many other fair but unremarkable British groups recording non-hit discs at the time.

The Flies did manage to put out one more single on RCA in 1968, another middling piece of pop-psych titled "The Magic Train." Some unissued demos from the time show the band moving toward a more organ-based, ethereal sound, but the group disbanded at the end of that year. Members surfaced in the subsequent obscure British psychedelic/progressive groups Infinity, Please, Bulldog Breed, and T2. In addition, while still in the Flies, singer Robin Hunt recorded a very British, fey pop/rock-psychedelic 1967 single for CBS under the pseudonym Alexander Bell, "Alexander Bell Believes"/"A Hymn...With Love." All six sides of the three Flies singles, as well as both sides of the Alexander Bell 45, various 1965-68 demos, and cuts from the In-Sect album, were reissued on the CD Complete Collection 1965-1968.

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« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2012, 09:12:43 PM »
Does John Stewart count as an "unknown great"? He has a wiki entry, so may not count, but his is a name not known to many.

He started in The Cumberland Three, then joined The Kingston Trio (when one of the original members left) and, after, went solo. He wrote "Daydream Believer" (a hit for The Monkees) but his range of writing is much wider than this suggests.

Someone recommended me to give his "California Bloodlines" album a listen and, around about that time, tracks from "The Lonesome Picker Rides Again" were played occasionally on the radio. Both these albums always give me pleasure whenever I put them on. I haven't bought all his output, by a long chalk, but I have seen him live a few times - even had my photo taken with him when he did an "in-store" at Tower Records somewhere towards the Upper East Side in Manhattan.

If you see either of those two albums going at a reasonable price, dip your hand in your pocket and give them a try.
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