Dusty, I hope you are sitting down, this is a sad day for you

[knopfling]

Geez, Dusty -- I didn't say he was a "f---ing great drummer," or anything like that. I just said I like a lot of his older stuff, especially ITAT.

[Love Expresso]

C'mon, it is all fun! Must be, because otherwise, and if Dusty was not Editor himself, I am sure this whole stuff would be eliminated... oh, no, sorry, was
in the wrong forum for a second...

The fun is only half-assed anyway because as long as the Baltimore Police Department gives no answer here Dusty won't be satisfied...

Will you? 

LE

[dustyvalentino]

I can assure you I am very satisfied this week, new album in production and Phil Collins has agreed to stop his musical crimes against humanity.

[Love Expresso]

 

LE

[vgonis]

I would like to act as if i haven't read the replies, so: Hey quite interesting news!

"Keith Richards' daughter Theodora has been arrested for possession of marijuana after she was caught 'defacing public property' with a marker pen in New York."

That said, this was surely the most interesting piece of news in the page of Collins retirement. I thought he had already retired after the "we can't dance" Genesis album. I have his 80ies records but haven't listened to them for at least a decade and to tell you the truth i only bought them for the equivalent of a euro, just as a diary for the songs i used to listen to the radio when i was a kid. But beware, these artists never keep their word, so it is not over yet. And modesty is a way of life...

[gbobmi]

Will somebody also alert the Baltimore authorities to the increased risk of suicide in the area?

Bwahahahahaha! You'd also better hope the Baltimore Police Department doesn't comment or try to contact you. He has a gun permit.

[dustyvalentino]

For the avoidance of doubt, my "hating" Phil Collins is not really serious, it has becoming a running joke and is just a bit of fun.

I do genuinely dislike most of his solo music but I'm sure he is a nice bloke and it would be nice to have a pint or a jam with him.

This is a good article:

http://www.holymoly.com/celebrity-news/phil-collins-decides-leave-music-throws-toys-out-pram-says-no-one-loves-him53870

It actually makes me feel a bit sorry for him. He seems to genuinely be upset that he isn't "relevant" anymore. And I think he's right - he isn't.

The problem he has is that he chased the dream, and he got it. He's right in that article, in the 80s and early 90s he was EVERYWHERE. Now, this doesn't happen by accident. He and the record company will have spent millions promoting him. He will have put a great deal of time and effort doing interviews etc with one purpose - to get people to see him.

And it was a huge success. But now he is finding the down side of that - that people are now fed up of him, due to overexposure.

He also has a more fundamental problem, relating to his music. It doesn't have any substance. His solo music was basically chasing the catch-all, middle ground, bubblegum pop market. Nothing  wrong with that per se, you can sell a lot of records that way. But tastes change, younger artists come along to fill that slot, and then what are you left with? Can Phil Collins make a "serious" record, something with meaning that people will cherish? Not really, because people don't really take him (but) seriously. He's the cheeky chappie who sings Can't Hurry Love isn't he? He's not Leonard Cohen.

So he releases an album of Motown covers last year hoping to capture that middle ground again, but hardly anybody buys it. So he says, and it's fair enough, why bother? What is trhe point of Phil Collins in 2011? There is no point. Quite sad really.

Sting I feel is in sort of a similar position - he's not really taken seriously as a mature solo artist either, hence the reason he has to find other "gimmicks", whether it's reforming The Police, doing lute music, performimg his old hits with an orchestra etc.

Which brings us on to MK. Now, we know DS had huge hits too in the mid 80s, but MK says it was an accident and I'm inclined to believe him, sure he would have gone out and done promotion etc too. And then in 1991 with OES they try to do the same thing again, try to have hit singles, try to have flashy videos etc. But it doesn't really work. MK knows that the writings on the wall in the "pop" game and goes back to being the serious artist that he always was. And that's for the best IMO. The people who would like to see DS reunited should have a look at Phil Collins and ask if that is how they would like things to turn out for MK.

[superval99]

Just read the remarks and found this:


It's strange to me that Phil is criticised for his baldness, just because he's honest about it, unlike, say, Elton (wig), Boy George (hat), or Mark Knopfler (I don't even know what).


I thought MK was very honest about his baldness!   He's even shaved off the few remaining follicles from the top of his head, when he could have trained them into a very becoming wrap-around!   

[ds1984]

Great post Dusty.

I am always surprised about OES being catalogued a bit like of more or less a commercial failure. Of course it sold much less than BIA and the tour was not sold out down under or in the US but it was still a big success in Europe and was more on the level of what the straits were at the time of the LOG album.

Regarding the question of a Dire Straits reunion, the 2002 gig were pretty close to be that if only Alan could have been in and I will always have deep regrets that this doesn't happened - and I fear the deadline for such a thing.

[Rollergirl]

very well said Mr Valentino. Did you write this? 

[dustyvalentino]

very well said Mr Valentino. Did you write this? 

My mum helped me with it.

[dustyvalentino]

Just read the remarks and found this:


It's strange to me that Phil is criticised for his baldness, just because he's honest about it, unlike, say, Elton (wig), Boy George (hat), or Mark Knopfler (I don't even know what).


I thought MK was very honest about his baldness!   He's even shaved off the few remaining follicles from the top of his head, when he could have trained them into a very becoming wrap-around!   

I saw that too, thought it was quite funny. Maybe they were meaning the headband era? I mean MK looked seriously daft roundabout OES.

[superval99]

Your mum can have the gold star, in that case!  

[Waterline Man]

I saw that too, thought it was quite funny. Maybe they were meaning the headband era? I mean MK looked seriously daft roundabout OES.


[/quote]

Dusty, he looks a bit like Willie Nelson?? I even had a mop around that time,denim shirts & white tshirts were all the rage that time too.

BTW Phil Collins lost some amount of hair since he did the Cadburys advert



 

[Pottel]

I'm sorry, but I like Phil's music, at least the first couple of albums he did solo and some of his work with Genesis. I saw him in concert, and he was pretty good.
In the Air Tonight is a great song to me.

you don't have to be sorry and I personally  don't think everything he has done is crap but I know Dusty hates him with  passion (a typical Scottish thing I was told, hating people you don't know) so I couldn't resist teasing him....

nope, i am belgian and i love hating people i don't know :-)
also, if it's for no apparent reason it adds to the overal feeling :-)