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Author Topic: The Straits Charity in RAH?  (Read 173573 times)

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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #90 on: March 16, 2011, 02:46:22 PM »
Dusty, I hope you are wrong with the cancelation.

Me too, personally I just want to see MK but I have no problem with people who take a different view and wish all the former DS members all the best in whatever they are doing.

They are all great musicians and I have enjoyed their playing over the years. :)

surely you don't mean ALL of them ?   ;D

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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #91 on: March 16, 2011, 03:26:44 PM »
Dusty, I hope you are wrong with the cancelation.

Me too, personally I just want to see MK but I have no problem with people who take a different view and wish all the former DS members all the best in whatever they are doing.

They are all great musicians and I have enjoyed their playing over the years. :)

surely you don't mean ALL of them ?   ;D

Yup, even DK who I would say is the least technically gifted musician to play with DS over the years was more than adequate during those great early live gigs.
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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #92 on: March 16, 2011, 03:56:50 PM »
Dusty, I hope you are wrong with the cancelation.

Me too, personally I just want to see MK but I have no problem with people who take a different view and wish all the former DS members all the best in whatever they are doing.

They are all great musicians and I have enjoyed their playing over the years. :)

surely you don't mean ALL of them ?   ;D

Yup, even DK who I would say is the least technically gifted musician to play with DS over the years was more than adequate during those great early live gigs.

Do you think that JI was technically better than DK?
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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #93 on: March 16, 2011, 04:21:04 PM »

.... and find a way to make the thing sound good without Mark involved. ...
 

No, this is for me (IMHO) the mistake....No Mark, no Sultans. No Mark, no MFN. No Mark, no Telegraph...
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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #94 on: March 16, 2011, 04:44:57 PM »
Do you think that JI was technically better than DK?

Hmm, very good question. Forgot about JI. Probably not, they are both competent but not really anything more. Neither would be able to go and get a job in another band as a session musician or whatever.

That said, MK didn't feel the need to have someone else play bass on record... except on BiA. Hmm. Dead heat I guess. :)
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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #95 on: March 16, 2011, 05:51:33 PM »
Do you think that JI was technically better than DK?

Hmm, very good question. Forgot about JI. Probably not, they are both competent but not really anything more. Neither would be able to go and get a job in another band as a session musician or whatever.

That said, MK didn't feel the need to have someone else play bass on record... except on BiA. Hmm. Dead heat I guess. :)

The official reason for Tony Levin ending on BIA is that John had broken thumb and thus was unavailable to play on One World.
Anyway John had its own style and sound, reason why DS would not be the same DS without him.
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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #96 on: March 16, 2011, 07:23:00 PM »
Is it all John on Why Worry? Sounds like some fretless work.
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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #97 on: March 16, 2011, 07:31:52 PM »
And how about Your Latest Trick? That's not John, is it?

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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #98 on: March 17, 2011, 07:44:53 AM »
John certainly isn't a "fancy" player, but he keeps the beat and doesn't only stick to the root note :) I think he's playing and mellow sound was very right for Dire Straits. However, his live sound in the early days is probably some of the worst I have heard ... And the little progression he used during Tunnel of Love (when the song starts building up again, before the grand finale), a 1-3-5 progression in the key of F, that's just downright corny. Sounds like a cheesy swing thing.

Having said that, as great as Glenn is, I'm sometimes a little surprised about his choices. He really overplays at times and sometimes puts in some pretty weird stuff, chords even, which I'm not so sure is all that fitting. But - easy to say for an amateur armchair musician haha.

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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #99 on: March 17, 2011, 06:12:17 PM »
John certainly isn't a "fancy" player, but he keeps the beat and doesn't only stick to the root note :) I think he's playing and mellow sound was very right for Dire Straits. However, his live sound in the early days is probably some of the worst I have heard ... And the little progression he used during Tunnel of Love (when the song starts building up again, before the grand finale), a 1-3-5 progression in the key of F, that's just downright corny. Sounds like a cheesy swing thing.

Having said that, as great as Glenn is, I'm sometimes a little surprised about his choices. He really overplays at times and sometimes puts in some pretty weird stuff, chords even, which I'm not so sure is all that fitting. But - easy to say for an amateur armchair musician haha.

I think it really comes down to style. There is no doubt that Glenn Worf is a technically better musician but there is something about John Illsley on bass for Dire Straits which was perfectly suited. His Sultans Of Swing bass in particular was perfect. Incidentally there is NO cheesy part to Tunnel Of Love full stop IMO  8)
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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #100 on: March 18, 2011, 09:48:59 AM »
Just one thing,


Oh man not Steve Ferrone!!  His style is even worse than when he was with EC in the 80s.
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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #101 on: March 19, 2011, 11:04:32 PM »
Video from the rehearsals. Terence Reis (lead vocals and guitar) actually plays a Pensa-Suhr MK1 (not a Pensa or a Suhr). You'll see the headstock clearly at about 4:50.

 

I think all in all they sound pretty good, except I can't quite get used to the vocals.


Found this clip of Terence Reis noodling on a beautiful Schecter. He certainly got the Knopfler sound down:

 
« Last Edit: March 19, 2011, 11:24:51 PM by Jackal »

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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #102 on: March 20, 2011, 10:40:43 AM »
Well, I've watched the video and again, good luck to them, but it's not for me.

Musically it's OK but there's not really any "connection" there for me. It might as well be a good cover band.

The keyboard player's yelping baking vocals are annoying as well.

More annoying though is this "for the first time in 20 years" business. Probably thought up by the marketing people and nothing to do with the band, but still.

I saw three members of Dire Straits perform Money for Nothing six years ago. Three years before that I saw five members playing it. So 20 years is total bollocks. Oh and these guys played all these songs with Jack Sonni a few months ago in Italy.

First time in 20 years my arse.
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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #103 on: March 20, 2011, 11:24:34 AM »
Sorry but this is crap....
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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #104 on: March 20, 2011, 12:25:15 PM »
I think they're just a good tribute band, nothing more.  Without MK, GF and JI there is no attraction for me, certainly no goosebumps!    

About the "for the first time in 20 years" blurb - it is totally misleading and untrue and should be removed!  
« Last Edit: March 20, 2011, 12:53:37 PM by superval99 »
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