The Straits Charity in RAH?

[ds1984]

But we just don't know what exactly happened when these song were written and recorded.

Adding siginificant musical element in a song written by someone else give you some right to get some copyright share on it (Whiter Shade of Pale or TGGITS are well known example). Alan did some key arrangement while in DS but never received official writing credits for them and Mick Taylor did struggle to be credited while in The Rolling Stones.
The question is "where is the limit when a musical contribution become part of a composition?".

[aborille]

As I supposed (not in this forum) the Straits tour is starting. It will not be a "one-day only". That's a shame imho.

http://www.melodicamente.com/2011/05/the-straits-ex-dire-straits-concerto-orbetello/

It's in Italian but google could help you.

Alessandro

[Jackal]

As I supposed (not in this forum) the Straits tour is starting. It will not be a "one-day only". That's a shame imho.

http://www.melodicamente.com/2011/05/the-straits-ex-dire-straits-concerto-orbetello/

It's in Italian but google could help you.

Alessandro

Thanks for that. Courtesy of Google:


Italian to English translation

Today Dire Straits no longer exist. There are the "The Straits" their heirs. The group consisting of: Alain Clark, Phil Palmer, Chris White, memorable members of 'Dire Straits', with the support of Steve Ferrone, among the most' great drummers in the world, Terence Reis, Mick Feat Jamie Squire and will be performing in Orbetello (Gr) to Park Cruises, the first of four stages that will portera'anche Italian in Milan, Rome and the Ronciglione Tuscia Rock Festival, to perform some of their biggest hits from "Tunnel of Love" to "So Far Away" , from "Romeo and Juliet" to "Money for nothing". The announcement of this extraordinary event sponsored by the municipality, to be held July 1 at 21:30, was made by Vice Mayor Luke Teglia, during the press conference held in the council chamber of the town of Orbetello, stressing the efficiency administration who worked hard so you can actually make this city one of the stages in which the Italian "The Straits" could actually perform. This sort of "reunion" was successfully induced, so to speak, by the incessant and repeated requests of many fans across Europe have always been required to listen to them and see them live. Hence the decision of the ex-Dire to organize a long European tour. The new name "The Straits" was chosen for reasons of copyright, in fact the mark "Dire Straits' Mark Knopfler member who left the band years ago. But fortunately, many fans of the sound remained the same.

[dustyvalentino]

Shock! Horror! Who could possibly have predicted this development?!

What a bunch of shysters. "One-off" charity event my arse.

[aborille]

On march 23rd I wrote on Guy Fletcher forum:

Hi Doc, I know you and Mark are not much interested in "the straits" band performing at RAH, but what I find unbelievable and irrespectful is the quote coming from Mr. Alan Cark: "just a few days rehearsal I can tell you this band rocks better than any Dire Straits line-up. Of course, we don't have the huge talent that is Mark Knopfler but we do have [...]" a list of "the straits" members follows. I have a bad feeling that I'm not able to dispel, this could be a marketing move to promote a forthcoming (not yet planned) tour of the so called straits to take advantage of the famous "brand". Do you have an opinion that you can share with us about all this stuff? Thanks.

[Jackal]

Shock! Horror! Who could possibly have predicted this development?!

What a bunch of shysters. "One-off" charity event my arse.

And what a better way to get publicity and kick off a tour than by playing for a charity and at RAH, an event organized and paid for by others? Genius.

I don't care whether they are the Straits, the ex-Dire Straits, Striker Dates, or whatever, capitalize on someone else's work, are "non-creative", bla, bla ,etc. - there's obviously a market for them. But why couldn't they just come clean to begin with? Just say it like it is? Stinks.

[Love Expresso]

It is still ridiculous! I do not want to spoil next weeks' event for those who are attending it, so maybe one can try and see it positive: Maybe the band was rehearsing and they all had immediately the impression that this band was really fitting and tight. So the ideas developed to go on. And then it grew. Probably the next thing will be an album by The Straits...

For me this marks more then ever the fact that there will never be any Dire Straits re-union. Never. Ever. Because I would really like to know what Mark
thinks of all this. How can he see Chris and Alan still as friends (when they ever were) when they try to outsmart him this way? He doesn't want to reunite? OK, then we have our own stuff going... Absurd and ridiculous because The Straits without MK are.... but we have all been there several weeks ago. I do not want to start this sermon again...

LE

[superval99]

Perhaps Mark will upstage them and include David and John Illsley in the next band line-up?    Just a one-off though!  
Maybe this is the exciting happening that Guy talks about!    

[Love Expresso]

I had the same thought Val, but can only say: Hopefully NOT!

I hope for a change in his "media" release politics: The last three records all contained more or less boring "Making Of" EPKs with always mimed, playback versions of songs - Guy has no reservations to openly talk about "miming" when there is no pop filter on the mics and stuff... Why not really get a film team in and document the whole production cycle - producing some real "live" stuff for a later DVD/BluRay Release... THAT would be great news, better news than any "Straits" stuff could ever mean to me... And of course a complete live show too! 

LE

[superval99]

I had the same thought Val, but can only say: Hopefully NOT!

LE

I agree wholeheartedly!   I was kidding!   It's not Mark's style......is it?   

[dustyvalentino]

playing them again for charity which is the  only one purpose - This info I got from CW directly!<<

     

 

[Jules]

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[aborille]

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[superval99]

... yes, without MK, but when I listened and loved that piano, hammond, sax and rythmic guitar parts, it wasnt to MK to whom I was listening to...

 

That's pretty insulting to MK imo!    Dire Straits without MK's voice and guitar would be nothing to me!   

[cannibal]

... yes, without MK, but when I listened and loved that piano, hammond, sax and rythmic guitar parts, it wasnt to MK to whom I was listening to...

 

That's pretty insulting to MK imo!    Dire Straits without MK's voice and guitar would be nothing to me!   

I super-quote you man, nothing else to add. MK is, was, will be DIRE STRAITS forever. The others? Just another $%&/ tribute band.