Mark and Bobby

[Tally]

The article is longer than Pottel's excerpt.

I found it very interesting, the song's a real favourite and this shed some light on the more obscure lines (some of them). Goes to show, yet again, that Dylan's lyrics are not collected mumbo-jumbo that sounds good. This one recollects his 60s writing, and the dark atmosphere is just perfect. Two players were all that song ever needed.

[Pottel]

i prefer the electrical outtake.
i only copied was was relevant for us Marky fans 

[Love Expresso]

The last paragraph states that, when the recording was done,

It was May 5, 1983

[dustyvalentino]

The last paragraph states that, when the recording was done,

It was May 5, 1983

[Fletch]

Foot of Pride, Lord Protect My Child are both very powerful songs. Did The Knop play on these also?
There's some great stuff on the bootleg vol 1-3, its a terrific trip spanning Bobs career.

[dustyvalentino]

Foot of Pride, Lord Protect My Child are both very powerful songs. Did The Knop play on these also?
There's some great stuff on the bootleg vol 1-3, its a terrific trip spanning Bobs career.

Yup, they are Infidels out-takes.

[Dutchessy]

Check this : http://www.neck-and-neck.com/disco/albums/gh.html

CARRACK, PAUL    [16,19,20,21,22]
IRWIN, BOBBY    drums [16,19,20,21,22]
LOWE, NICK    [16,19,20,21,22]


16. My Claim To Fame (04:39)
 

UNRELEASED TRACKS

19. Batting For England
20. No Wonder He's Confused
21. Secondary Waltz
22. Speedway To Nazareth

batting for england?

Never heard of it... Someone ever heard that song??

[Dutchessy]

wonder what song this is:
 Then I cut a song that didn't get on the rocord with Nick Lowe and Paul Carrack, my little English Group.

batting for england?

[ds1984]

Check this : http://www.neck-and-neck.com/disco/albums/gh.html

CARRACK, PAUL    [16,19,20,21,22]
IRWIN, BOBBY    drums [16,19,20,21,22]
LOWE, NICK    [16,19,20,21,22]


16. My Claim To Fame (04:39)
 

UNRELEASED TRACKS

19. Batting For England
20. No Wonder He's Confused
21. Secondary Waltz
22. Speedway To Nazareth

batting for england?

Never heard of it... Someone ever heard that song??

Neither do I but maybe Mark is a cricket aficionado or it is another allegory from him. And I was unaware that SAN was already written at this time. Actualy no site does reference when his songs were written.

[Tally]

I like some of the other Infidels songs though, like Union Sundown with the Rolling' and Tumblin'-like guitars and energetic vibe. But Blind Willie is one of his best ever.

[Pottel]

yes, the SAN reference was an eyeopener for me too...

[ds1984]

yes, the SAN reference was an eyeopener for me too...

Big surprise for me also. Unfortunately I did not succeed to find a cache from the old "http://www.neck.and.neck.net/" site so I was not able to check that this info was posted prior to the song release.

[Dutchessy]

San was a ds song as far as I remember... Planned for on every street... i think

[Pottel]

Interesting, got any reference, interview or something for that?can someone ask guy?

[Love Expresso]

Hey Pottel, here is what I found at Guy's Archive: Three posts referring to SAN. I do not think you will get it any clearer from him... 

4th February 2009
   So, Guy, what year was speedway originally written? Curious because it took me a year to really love that song. Just wondering if it was early Mark or middle-aged MK. Also, just found a 'new' DVD of Straits filmed in Germany in 1979. Ordered it from Amazon.com a minute ago. Looking forward to more great stuff from you guys!    

ANSWER: I would guess the mid 90's. That DVD is a bootleg and Amazon are under investigation. You're perfectly within your rights to buy it of course, although I'm not sure how good the quality is.
 

4th February 2009
   Guy - SAN is one of my all time favourites. Would you be willing to share a bit more of the inside history of the song and how it got be revived? Many thanks for all your efforts in keeping this forum active.

ANSWER: Well it got cut a couple of years before the album version at the Sound Stage studio in Nashville but just didn't do it. Mark thought the song worthy of another go.
 

2nd February 2009
   hi doc,has there ever been an occassion where the band have been working on a song but for some reason or other it just hasnt worked out and been dropped? has there ever been an occassion where the input of one of the band has completly changed the direction or sound of a song from what it was to be like initially?

ANSWER:    Plenty of times..there have also been songs which were recorded many years ago and scrapped, only to be revived...speedway at Nazareth is one example.

Mid-Nineties would mean: Solo, not Dire Straits anymore. Right?

LE