Concert #83:2010.07.27, Campo Pequeno, Lisbon, Portugal

[dustyvalentino]

Maybe he was looking for other fitting notes but he couldn't find them? Don't know, not a guitar expert

Possible, but unlikely I think given that he played the song perfectly for the other 86 shows. Seems one or two strings just went out of tune all of a sudden. For one it is very strange, two even more so, maybe the spring in the tremolo unit shifted, but I thought this one was set up in a "hard tail" style.

Who knows.

[Dutchessy]

Maybe he was looking for other fitting notes but he couldn't find them? Don't know, not a guitar expert

Possible, but unlikely I think given that he played the song perfectly for the other 86 shows. Seems one or two strings just went out of tune all of a sudden. For one it is very strange, two even more so, maybe the spring in the tremolo unit shifted, but I thought this one was set up in a "hard tail" style.

Who knows.

But it changed within a second... They can be out of tone within 1 second? Is that possible?

[Pottel]

hardly possible, how about the local promotor?
anyway, it sounds real bad on the recording..

[dustyvalentino]

But it changed within a second... They can be out of tone within 1 second? Is that possible?

Well, yes, in theory. The string is being held in place at two ends, the tuning pegs and the bridge. In this case the bridge is a tremolo unit. If one of the springs in the tremolo unit snapped for example then the tension on ALL of the strings would be altered and they would no longer be in tune.

Alternatively a string might "slip" on a tuning post, but the odds on this happening for two strings at the same time are very slim indeed. Again, I am just guessing that two strings went out of tune, could just be one.

Maybe somebody should ask GF.

[ds1984]

Apparently there was no announcement pre-show to tell people "no filming of the show" so this maybe explains the increased number of cameras.  Presumably as the only Portuguese show it wasn't feasible to get a Portuguese speaker for the pre-show speech.

It was absolutly feasible. In some countries the announcement was made in English by PC, in others in local tongue (like in France) by someone of the local crew, although sometines they spoke about borbiding cell phones and flashing camera only without any reference to filming.

[emilianomk]

what an answer!

[dmg]

Maybe somebody should ask GF.

It's already been asked at 29th July 2010:

rui pedro:
well,what a night yesterday!!!wow!!you guys are really really in top form....thank you once again,and i hope to see the hole band in near future.....now a little question ,what hapenned with mark

[dustyvalentino]

Sounds similar to what happened in Boston 2001 during Sultans final solo, doesn't it?  Perhaps the intense heat?  Remember during the promo tour for KtGC in 2007 in Berlin Guy said they had problems with guitars going out of tune due to the heat?

Yeah, the heat will do that, but not really to such a big extent and so quickly, usually more of a gradual thing.

[nando]

flash news of the concert on tv


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[Dutchessy]

it's not a string problem,
it's a mechanical problem of the bridge

that's why all strings are out of tune and
he looks at the bridge after some notes

Yes, the same what Dusty said? You 2 are guitar experts