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OfflineFletch

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Alchemy - DVD/Blu-Ray Reviews/Thoughts
« on: May 07, 2010, 11:24:37 PM »
Other thread was full of conjecture & rumour....

Truly had the time of my life last night watching the BR disc. The sound mix (stereo) is spot on, powerful, clear & captures all of the energy. Looking forward to one day testing the 5:1

The picture, as mentioned previously, is nowhere near modern DVD standard even & suffers on a larger screen. I guess you can spend millions cleaning up Gone With The Wind, but the budget isn`t there for our niche market?
Plenty of good old fashioned tape glitches and marks, and a colour glare that feels like a time warp back to the 80s.
You get used to it, but even by Telegraph Road my son was saying, "Dad, look at that line!" It feels like you`re watching the best ever VHS cassette.

Shame about the picture but this is a good ol` DS dream come true. After all the talk of, It`ll Never Happen - Mark is Looking Forwards.... finally the master is revealed in an official release!

Oh, & the performance was ok.....  ;)
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Re: Alchemy - DVD/Blu-Ray Reviews/Thoughts
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2010, 11:33:05 PM »
mark is looking forwards, and apparently is not interested at all in this release...
any Knopfler, Floyd or Dylan will do....

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Re: Alchemy - DVD/Blu-Ray Reviews/Thoughts
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2010, 08:30:17 AM »
Interesting review, thanks a lot. I haven't seen it yet, but suppose that the vintage look may support the whole atmosphere of the show, comparable to watching old photographs from the 80ies and remembering good ol' times.
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Re: Alchemy - DVD/Blu-Ray Reviews/Thoughts
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2010, 10:57:43 AM »
I appreciate the honesty from Fletch. I have a feeling it will look something like the way they rehashed Red Dwarf and pumped glaring colours into our faces for the American market.

This is quite sad, in fact it is very sad, to offer something in BD that clearly is not in a high definition. I would suggest it is the Best Definition (BD? :D) possible and that is all.

If they have messed about with the colour mix just to make it look 'good' i can understand that MK would not be too happy about this just like I bet he isn't happy with them messing with the mix that was apparently 'so bad'.

Yes I haven't seen it, I have read one honest review, and I wonder if it is worth the bother. I transferred the VT version to DVD many years ago and to be honest, I am very happy with it. It was a measure of the night(s) in question and and the production methods available at that time and has been acceptable for over 25 years. It is only due to the advent of modern TVs that prompted this project.

I would still like to read more reviews though when everyone gets the time.

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Re: Alchemy - DVD/Blu-Ray Reviews/Thoughts
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2010, 02:45:13 PM »
Short review:

Screen quality: could be better. I agree with the comments made by others. But on the other hand, what would you expect from a concert shot during the early 80's?  The sound has made a big improvement, a pity that they didn't use it for the 'normal' live-album.   But when you listen carefully you can hear some differences. At the beginning of Once Upon A Time In The West there are a few seconds of the synth-part missing. Of listen to Solid Rock, during the intro you can hear saxophone. It's not on the album!
Overall I'm happy with this release.  Maybe some more in the future? The Mandela-concert in perfect sound?  Of the Wembley '85-gig? 

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Re: Alchemy - DVD/Blu-Ray Reviews/Thoughts
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2010, 06:09:15 PM »
Thanks for that short review. When you say the synth part is missing  -do you mean that it has just been taken out of the mix or have a few bars of music been removed?

Thanks

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Re: Alchemy - DVD/Blu-Ray Reviews/Thoughts
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2010, 07:55:23 PM »
Thanks for that short review. When you say the synth part is missing  -do you mean that it has just been taken out of the mix or have a few bars of music been removed?

It's the part just after MK says 'Are you alright'. A few seconds of the synth part are missing.

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Re: Alchemy - DVD/Blu-Ray Reviews/Thoughts
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2010, 10:29:23 AM »
I'm confused about the picture quality, because on the official trailer it says "Restored to High Definition Clarity" which i assumed meant the picture!!
I don't have the Blue-Ray yet so can't see for myself.
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Re: Alchemy - DVD/Blu-Ray Reviews/Thoughts
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2010, 10:52:55 AM »
just ordered through amazon...wait and see....
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Re: Alchemy - DVD/Blu-Ray Reviews/Thoughts
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2010, 11:32:11 AM »
I'm wondering about the deluxe edition with CDs. Anybody has it yet??

I really want to find out if it contains the original sound or not....?
I know it says that it does include the original soundtrack on the CDs, but I'm still hoping for the new sound :)


Anyway, I sooooooo can't wait to buy it!!
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Re: Alchemy - DVD/Blu-Ray Reviews/Thoughts
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2010, 11:45:53 AM »
I'm wondering about the deluxe edition with CDs. Anybody has it yet??

I really want to find out if it contains the original sound or not....?

I have the Deluxe edition.  The 'original' album is the original one, with the original sound!

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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2010, 11:48:08 AM »
I have the Deluxe edition.  The 'original' album is the original one, with the original sound!

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Thanks for the reply.
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Re: Alchemy - DVD/Blu-Ray Reviews/Thoughts
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2010, 12:03:17 PM »
Further comments here, seems it's perhaps not worth upgrading to Blu Ray just for this disc:

http://forum.blu-ray.com/united-kingdom/138870-alchemy-dire-straits-live-2.html
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Re: Alchemy - DVD/Blu-Ray Reviews/Thoughts
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2010, 02:41:44 PM »
Just bought the BD disc and watched/listened to it on my 2.1 LG HB-354BS system (with 5.1 sound pretty well 'simulated') and my Plasma (non HD) 42'' TV. Here is my review:

1/Package: feels a bit cheap. Does not mention anything about the extras, just has an advert for the MP3 download. The booklet inside is short but not bad, interesting stuff about DS's history. The disc menus are ok, but with some imperfections - selecting "Tunnel of Love" jumps directly to after the "Carrousel Waltz" intro, so if you want the intro, you have no choice but going backwards on the "Two Young Lovers" track...
2/Picture Quality: as said before, it is better than any copy of the VHS I have ever watcher before, but still, nowhere near today's HD standards, as it could be seen of the Police 'Certifiable' BD, for instance. Picture is stuck to 4/3, grainy and noisy; on "Going Home" one camera even has a piece of hair or something on the lense, which is making Mark stop and laugh... I have to check whether this hair was there on the original film, can't remember it.
3/Sound Quality: as can been expected from Chuck, it is breathtaking, even on my lame 2.1 system. Makes me wonder how we could have been satisfied with the original mix for the past 26 years and why they don't re-release the CD. It even makes me entirely reconsider my opinion about the Alchemy concert: I used to think that is was a great concert, but not the best compared to Wembley 85. Now I really wonder. The sound is pristine, the guitars sound smoother, the vocals crystal clear. Some keyboards nuances that were not heard before are now well present. As already said, the sax at the beginning of Solid Rock sounds really new !
4/Bonuses: It is disappointed not to have the entire concert, not even LoG ! I guess that when they said they had found the "original tapes", they really meant that they have found the master of the original film, without any extra. I guess they may also be some rights issues for LoG, as it was issued as a separated video clip (still available on the SoS DVD). But we have a great consolation: the BBC documentary is really great. It features great complete live versions of rare songs, such as Down to the Waterline, Les Boys and Where do you think you're going. The unreleased "Making Movies" soung is there, it is a great plus. They are great interviews about the sudden pressure that came with the sucess to the group, the relationships betwenn Mark and David... At some point Mark is asked ifto which extent DS is just a vehicle for MK's songs. He replies "none really, it's all about the band, being together, being part of a greater whole" :)) All in all, very touching HQ documentary.
Overall, I am quite happy but this is not perfect... what's next ? :)   

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Re: Alchemy - DVD/Blu-Ray Reviews/Thoughts
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2010, 03:26:50 PM »
Yes, I remember the hair from the VHS.

Many seems to be disappointed with the picture quality, but is it at all possible to make something better than the original? I seem to remember that the original video was very grainy. You can't fix that, can you? If the original was film or HD video yes, of course, but if the video equipement was bad quality?

 

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