Recordings from this tour

[FenderBender]

The knopflerTK's decision is very smart (yes it is !) and logical.
It's the only option to avoid any copyright consequence - even if for the real fans it makes no difference (we will buy anyway).
I like the video/audio paradox though. It adds some spice. 

It is not smart, or logical.

There is no copyright consequence of uploading audience recordings. They are not the same recordings. There would only be breach of copyright if the official recording was being made available for download.

exactly, i do not see the point of making fan made recordings available besides the official ones. i mean, the people that are in danger of not buying the official ones because a fan one would exist, are not the people that would find their way to the spanish city tracker, so the ones that do make it there are the ones that already buy all the official stuff anyways.

i will keep on recording, and yes, clearly an audience rec. is not the same as an official one.
but with a decently made audience one, i enjoy the "live feeling more"
also, where does it say Spanish city will not allow? i only read they were debating it?

The announcement was posted on the home page of the tracker on 1st June.

[ds1984]

I think that not putting on th etracker aud recording from nights officially released is the good thing to do for now.
This our way to show that we are plently supporting Mark's effort to provide his live music to us.

And I hope that this non-eu restriction will be quickly solved; otherwise our overseas friends will not have other solution to bypass this stupid decision.

Strange that the "recording industry" is so strong to turn what should be a win-win situation to lose-lose, they are just insane people 

As aud recording is still allowed by PCM management keep recording for yoursel or for future share.
They different experience.

[ingridswing]

I think it's not illegal if I buy an extra flashstick and send it overseas!
Or I buy an extra show, burn it on CD and send it overseas?
What do you think?

[ds1984]

I think it's not illegal if I buy an extra flashstick and send it overseas!
Or I buy an extra show, burn it on CD and send it overseas?
What do you think?

What message are you answering?

[ingridswing]

That overseas citizens have to bypass the law 

[ds1984]

If you can't legaly buy it, why then buy it?

[ingridswing]

Others than European want to have this stuff as well. If I am in the US I buy some CD's most of the time. But I never wonder if it's legal or not. When it's not available in European shops and I am in the US and buy it, I never thought about it as illegal. Just not available here, so I buy it somewhere else.

Am I a criminal now?     

[ds1984]

Others than European want to have this stuff as well. If I am in the US I buy some CD's most of the time. But I never wonder if it's legal or not. When it's not available in European shops and I am in the US and buy it, I never thought about it as illegal. Just not available here, so I buy it somewhere else.

Am I a criminal now?     

I don't know, I am not an expert on international laws.

But for example in France you are not authorized to import oversea released DVD of movie that are still on screen and specialized shops that do so are facing fine if caught.

[tunnel85]

Others than European want to have this stuff as well. If I am in the US I buy some CD's most of the time. But I never wonder if it's legal or not. When it's not available in European shops and I am in the US and buy it, I never thought about it as illegal. Just not available here, so I buy it somewhere else.

Am I a criminal now?     

I don't know, I am not an expert on international laws.

But for example in France you are not authorized to import oversea released DVD of movie that are still on screen and specialized shops that do so are facing fine if caught.

France is a bad example. Nothing is authorized anymore since we have a little corporal again. 

[Jules]

I think that maybe the tracker could allow all those shows that are not being offered as soundboards (it means all the RAH shows except the first one).

I should mention it to the moderators teams, and see if thats ok, as it looks like the own RAH make it difficult to release more staff to the Simfy Live people.

[herlock]

France is a bad example. Nothing is authorized anymore since we have a little corporal again. 

indeed... with much, much less talent than the original little caporal i should say.

[sweetsurrender]

Many good points discussed here.  I agreed with dusty regarding the freedom of choice in the market place.  I'm shocked that knopflertk decided to ban audience recordings.  Maybe we can petition that ?  

I'm so thrilled that we can download official stuff.  Like ingrid said there are many get a lifers (me included) who want to collect every show that's available.  It's just that important.  Even if all the official are made available including NA, they will be quite costly to buy them all.  IMO< they should offer discount package, say, the more shows you download, the more discounts you get.

[ds1984]

I think that the purpose of these release is first to allow people that attend a particular show to go back with THE show they attended, not to collect them all, although the die-hard MK fan we are will eventually end with all of them.


I know that ABB are releasing limited edition boxes with full run of their shows but they does not sound quite cheap.
And they are able to play 3 or 4 shows (generally lasting over 2h30) in a row with only very few songs played twice or more...

[allen]

Mark Knopfler 2010-06-03 - ABE14 - Royal Albert Hall - London UK

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=307229&hit=1

[sweetsurrender]

Thanks allen.  dimeadozen, here I go !!