Alchemy Live - 20th Anniversary Edition

[Pottel]

well, maybe yall wanna wait till you hear it for yourself, at home, on your home cinema systems? before giving all these opninions? feels a bit like the monte carlo thread.

[Jules]

Bad that my dvd+dvr doesn

[Mossguitar]

well, maybe yall wanna wait till you hear it for yourself, at home, on your home cinema systems? before giving all these opinions? feels a bit like the monte carlo thread.

I absolutely agree, Pottel.

Of course the vocals aren't redone. And of course a remix will affect the sound, that's what a remix does. Chuck said in an interview that he thought that the band played fantastic, but the original mix was terrible. From just hearing the clip, I don't think the voice sounds processed at all, but quite natural, less EQed in a way. I think the teaser sounds fantastic, so I am really looking forward to a proper sounding Alchemy. But, you could e-mail Chuck, I think he is known to answer e-mails in a very friendly and informative way.

[Simon]

Sound and the perception of sound is extremely subjective. Just because someone says something was a bad mix doesn't mean it wasn't enjoyed immensely by others. There are in my opinion far too many hugely over-processed albums - but that is my opinion and I am sure the sound engineers at the time were rubbing their lapels with pride when their work was done.

[Mossguitar]

Sound and the perception of sound is extremely subjective. Just because someone says something was a bad mix doesn't mean it wasn't enjoyed immensely by others. There are in my opinion far too many hugely over-processed albums - but that is my opinion and I am sure the sound engineers at the time were rubbing their lapels with pride when their work was done.

Absolutely

[Simon]

Slightly OT but relevant I think. I remember a Def Leppard documentary on their album Pyromania which took years to make and was so over-processed that it was not possible for 4 guys to make the sounds that emanated from it (40 guys maybe with a load of synthetic sounds!). They subsequently asked Jim Steinman to produce their next album and he wrapped it up in a few weeks - but the band didn't like the sound - they thought he hadn't spent long enough mixing/mastering it so they sacked him. Jim Steinman - the guy who wrote and produced probably one of the best selling albums of all time! :-)

The following quote by Steinman says it all as far as I am concerned:

 "That was bullshit, like working with blanks. I've come to believe that Def Leppard is basically like George Bush, a package item with an amazing amount of confection and no content. They're just like Spinal Tap. It's really all the producer - a Mutt Lange creation. They come out as great records, beautifully layered technically, but so empty".

[Love Expresso]

  "That was bullshit, like working with blanks. I've come to believe that Def Leppard is basically like George Bush, a package item with an amazing amount of confection and no content. They're just like Spinal Tap. It's really all the producer - a Mutt Lange creation. They come out as great records, beautifully layered technically, but so empty".

So quite the opposite of Dire Straits! What do you think?

LE

[Waterline Man]

 "That was bullshit, like working with blanks. I've come to believe that Def Leppard is basically like George Bush, a package item with an amazing amount of confection and no content. They're just like Spinal Tap. It's really all the producer - a Mutt Lange creation. They come out as great records, beautifully layered technically, but so empty".

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A bit like a christmas hamper,full of straw & paper & little else - it looks good from the outside though

[Jules]

Confirmed that the deluxe version includes the 2 cd version that we already have, it means that it doesn

[Tally]

It's utterly ridiculous that the new mixes aren't included. I will buy the DVD only.

[Waterline Man]

It's utterly ridiculous that the new mixes aren't included. I will buy the DVD only.

Agreed, I'm in the same boat, I bought the copied dvd on ebay a few years ago,the quality is ok & its certainly easier to store than the vhs copy but Chucks version obviously has to be far superior - no way am I buying a deluxe version that includes 2 cds that I have already though - a bit of a waste of money really if you ask me just to have a a box set

[boboDS]

Confirmed that the deluxe version includes the 2 cd version that we already have, it means that it doesn

[Ingo]

Maybe the Chuck Ainley remix is just the 5.1 surround version, and this format CANNOT be pressed to a normal CD ...

At least I now understand it the way that the bonus material is also on the Bluray, I already saw a horror scenario that I must buy the Bluray for HD, PLUS the Deluxe DVD for that bonus stuff (which will be better quality than the versions we have of it). This would have been a no-go for me, I rather would have illegally downloaded the bonus stuff somewhere before paying for Alchemy for the 5th time then (vinyl, VHS, CD, DVD, Bluray)

[ustas]

Maybe the Chuck Ainley remix is just the 5.1 surround version, and this format CANNOT be pressed to a normal CD ...

Alchemy Live restored to pristine high definition visual clarity, remixed in PCM Uncompressed Stereo and Digital 5.1 Surround Sound

[GennT]

IMHO I think by "the original album" they mean the same tracks remixed in a better way without removing or adding additional songs.Original album - Same songs remixed by Chuck! same as in Dire Straits (1978) original album remixed (1996) or something like that! I may be wrong but anyway I did preorder the deluxe edition yesterday.