Video - Dire Straits Live Toronto 26th July 1985 - wrong date?

[Brunno Nunes]

Video - Dire Straits Live Toronto 26th July 1985 - wrong date?

This week I'm revisiting some recordings from the BIA tour 85 and I noticed that there was something in my old notes that I had forgotten to mention here, the Video - "Dire Straits Live Toronto 26th July 1985" corresponds exactly to the audio recording of the bootleg Toronto 1985 28.07.85. The video has the almost complete concert, only missing part of Solid rock and Going home, but, the audio recording of the bootleg Toronto 1985 (28.07.85) is complete, and I really believe that the date error is in the video, because we have the audio recording of the first show in Toronto 26th July 1985, the famous bootleg "Sleight of hand" and it is a different recording from the video with the same date and location.

In my opinion, the video - Dire Straits Live Toronto should be released on this date, July 28, 1985.

Suggestion:

1- Listen to Toronto July 26, 1985 - "Sleight of hand" (To make it easier, listen to So Far Away first, then compare it with any other song from the show)



2- Watch the video on YouTube Dire Straits Live Toronto "July 26, 1985" (To make it easier, listen to So Far Away first, then compare it with any other song from the show)


3- Listen to the bootleg Toronto 1985 (07/28/85) (To make it easier, listen to So Far Away first, then compare it with any other song from the show)



(2- and 3- are the same.)

[Brunno Nunes]

Another curiosity in the bootleg Toronto July 26, 1985, "Sleight of hand", notice the interesting improvisation at the beginning of Two Young Lovers. MK plays something that he has not played before, this does not happen with the version in Toronto 1985 (28.07.85), which is the same as the video. 

[Brunno Nunes]

Taking the opportunity to bring a little more curiosity, perhaps it may be interesting for some.

Note that Mark used the Erlewine (Pig) guitar that he always used for Industrial Disease for the song Two Young Lovers in the video in Toronto 1985, that's how he played Two Young Lovers until the end of the American tour in October 1985. The Erlewine has a more saturated tone than the white SG used on the LOG tour 82-83 and the black Schecter Tele, which Mark started using during the second European tour in October 1985 and will continue to use until the last show of the tour - Sydney 86. We can notice these details by analyzing the recordings of the BIA tour. In terms of tone, Two Young Lovers with the Erlewine (Pig) are my favorites, I love this saturation, there's something of ZZ Top in the air, at least for me, this becomes more evident when the tour goes to America.

When we watch the Vienna video in November 85, we see Mark using the black Schecter Tele for the same song, as well as in the Auckland 86 and Sydney 86 videos.

[Brunno Nunes]

If the Two Young Lovers video at Wembley 85 were to come to light, we would see Mark using his Erlewine, who knows one day.


Photo of a show from the first part of the BIA tour, perhaps from one of the nights at Wembley

[Brunno Nunes]

If the Two Young Lovers video at Wembley 85 were to come to light, we would see Mark using his Erlewine, who knows one day.


Photo of a show from the first part of the BIA tour, perhaps from one of the nights at Wembley

Photo from a May 1985 show, Two Young lovers too.

[Pottel]

just wanna add that these were the shows where Stevie Ray Vaughan played support, must have been an eye opener for Mark

[Brunno Nunes]

just wanna add that these were the shows where Stevie Ray Vaughan played support, must have been an eye opener for Mark

Exactly, Dire Straits' tour of Canada in July 85 had SRV as the opening act for the shows and about that, I remember watching a podcast with Jack Sonni where he mentioned about it, that he was delighted with the fact that SRV opened the show and that he would have tried to interact with him, but that there was some kind of objection on Knopfler's part, something related to SRV being addicted to alcohol or other drugs, I don't remember well, but, that MK wouldn't like it if the band members liked SRV's performance.

[hunter v2.0]

just wanna add that these were the shows where Stevie Ray Vaughan played support, must have been an eye opener for Mark

Exactly, Dire Straits' tour of Canada in July 85 had SRV as the opening act for the shows and about that, I remember watching a podcast with Jack Sonni where he mentioned about it, that he was delighted with the fact that SRV opened the show and that he would have tried to interact with him, but that there was some kind of objection on Knopfler's part, something related to SRV being addicted to alcohol or other drugs, I don't remember well, but, that MK wouldn't like it if the band members liked SRV's performance.

Say what?! How charming of Mark 

[taylor565]

And it does feel like they have gotten the dates on the video all wrong. I’ve performed some comparing in the past and, to answer your question, yes it does indeed seem a little closer to the July 28th bootleg at least in the video.
Your steps are super helpful if you are interested in comparing “So Far Away” across these recordings, this is a great idea to be sure. Perhaps, someone close can confirm this farther or even contact whoever transmitted the video to correct the date.

[Delpiero999]

Hello, I send you a clipping from the newspaper Toronto Star about the concert on the 26th. The shirt that Mark is wearing is different from the one in the video. Bruno, I think you are right and the date of the concert is wrong.

[dmg]

Thanks very much for that review and welcome to the forum.  They seem to get paid more for nasty reviews!

Apparently Christopher Hume was the architecture critic and urban issues columnist of the Toronto Star from the early 1980s until his retirement in 2016.  What does he know?

[ds1984]

Apparently Christopher Hume was the architecture critic and urban issues columnist of the Toronto Star from the early 1980s until his retirement in 2016.  What does he know?

Jimi Hendrix

[dmg]

Apparently Christopher Hume was the architecture critic and urban issues columnist of the Toronto Star from the early 1980s until his retirement in 2016.  What does he know?

Jimi Hendrix

Jack Shit I think is the name you're looking for.

[Brunno Nunes]

Hello, I send you a clipping from the newspaper Toronto Star about the concert on the 26th. The shirt that Mark is wearing is different from the one in the video. Bruno, I think you are right and the date of the concert is wrong.

Thank you very much for bringing this article, it further substantiates my conception about the mistake of the date of this show. The article is interesting, the critics in many cases play a completely unnecessary role.

[Pottel]

lol, that review....jeez...