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Title: 23 years since Mark Knopfler's accident, today.
Post by: Brunno Nunes on March 08, 2025, 01:51:53 PM
🔴 MARCH 8 2003

Mark Knopfler was injured when the Honda motorbike he was riding was involved in a collision with a Fiat Punto car. The 53-year-old singer and guitarist suffered a broken collar bone and six broken ribs in the accident which happened in London's smart Belgravia district in mid-morning traffic.

This unfortunate accident changed the course of things, the RPD Tour 2003 was cancelled and it seems that Mark never returned to his former guitar performance, although, up until the 2006 tour, he still easily impressed me on the guitar. Did this accident significantly affect his playing?

Anyway, 23 years have passed... Time flies.
Title: Re: 23 years since Mark Knopfler's accident, today.
Post by: herlock on March 08, 2025, 01:54:19 PM
Listening to Telegraph Road from Lyon 2005, I don't have the impression that this accident affected his playing... Not negatively, at least...
Title: Re: 23 years since Mark Knopfler's accident, today.
Post by: Brunno Nunes on March 08, 2025, 02:31:39 PM
I've come across some debates about whether the accident affected his playing in a negative way. In the medium term, it seems to me that he significantly lost some of his performance, this was evident on the 2008 tour, from then on he fluctuated, but never again reached the level he had until 2003. 2005, there was still notable energy in his playing, "nervous" and tasty licks, for me, the best tones of Sultans of Swing and TR from his solo career, returning to using the Fender Stratocaster, Boom Like That was his last great foray into a melancholic rocker sound, for me, these are three great highlights of 2005 live.
Title: Re: 23 years since Mark Knopfler's accident, today.
Post by: quizzaciously on March 08, 2025, 03:55:20 PM
Mark had problems with migrants in London long before it became mainstream.
Title: Re: 23 years since Mark Knopfler's accident, today.
Post by: Rolo on March 08, 2025, 04:35:48 PM
Every guitar player always try to get evolve as a player. Every time.
Sometimes it's about technique, sometimes is about like a 'all-wrong' and then a crysis about themselves.

Mark, as MANY others, maybe have been tired of his own licks and phrasing from a long time. I don't think that the his accident affected his playing. He was great in 2005 and absolutely flawless in 2011.

I think that the relashionship between Mark and his guitar player efforts fell off hugely. Which is normal for a any musician. He loves the guitar. However, he got a different perspective about the instument nowadays.

Robben Ford changed his playing on a drastic way between his album Truth (2007) and Bring It Back Home (2009). Then he changed all again since his new instrumental records.

And I am not talking about Jeff Beck.
Title: Re: 23 years since Mark Knopfler's accident, today.
Post by: rmarques821 on March 08, 2025, 07:03:19 PM
🔴 MARCH 8 2003

Mark Knopfler was injured when the Honda motorbike he was riding was involved in a collision with a Fiat Punto car. The 53-year-old singer and guitarist suffered a broken collar bone and six broken ribs in the accident which happened in London's smart Belgravia district in mid-morning traffic.

This unfortunate accident changed the course of things, the RPD Tour 2003 was cancelled and it seems that Mark never returned to his former guitar performance, although, up until the 2006 tour, he still easily impressed me on the guitar. Did this accident significantly affect his playing?

Anyway, 23 years have passed... Time flies.
No. I think his playing was always going to change even if he hadn't had the accident. He was already writing different kinds of songs by then.
Title: Re: 23 years since Mark Knopfler's accident, today.
Post by: Banjo99uk on March 08, 2025, 08:23:05 PM
I wonder if his clear mobility issues are a result of the accident.
Title: Re: 23 years since Mark Knopfler's accident, today.
Post by: Pottel on March 10, 2025, 08:56:54 AM
Mark had problems with migrants in London long before it became mainstream.
this misses an ironic smiley!
Title: Re: 23 years since Mark Knopfler's accident, today.
Post by: Pottel on March 10, 2025, 08:57:13 AM
I wonder if his clear mobility issues are a result of the accident.
2nd that
Title: Re: 23 years since Mark Knopfler's accident, today.
Post by: ds1984 on March 10, 2025, 01:30:02 PM
Well you forgot Saturday 25th October 1986 when Mark broke his collarbone after crashing in a celebrity car race before the Australian Grand Prix.

So, to take on uncle's Ed view, we are speaking about things we are not fully informed about.


Title: Re: 23 years since Mark Knopfler's accident, today.
Post by: wayaman on March 10, 2025, 04:28:13 PM
I wonder if his clear mobility issues are a result of the accident.

The accident was in 2003, since then me made several tours in which he was in a great physical shape, 2005, 2006, 2008, then in 2010 he has some back issues and turned to good shape in 2013 and 2015 and then something happened in 2019.

Many many years later than the car accident and with plenty of in good shape tours in the middle.
Title: Re: 23 years since Mark Knopfler's accident, today.
Post by: Robson on March 10, 2025, 04:34:19 PM
...and then something happened in 2019"

I don't want to talk about MK's health. These are too personal topics but it's no secret that he got seriously ill twice with covid.
Title: Re: 23 years since Mark Knopfler's accident, today.
Post by: wayaman on March 10, 2025, 05:03:05 PM
...and then something happened in 2019"

I don't want to talk about MK's health. These are too personal topics but it's no secret that he got seriously ill twice with covid.

COVID was in 2020, so whatever happened to him in 2019 was before COVID.
Title: Re: 23 years since Mark Knopfler's accident, today.
Post by: ds1984 on March 10, 2025, 08:09:37 PM
Every issue Mark got with his health are not public domain.

We know two of them only and we are speculating based on one of these two.








Title: Re: 23 years since Mark Knopfler's accident, today.
Post by: Banjo99uk on March 10, 2025, 08:32:22 PM
I wonder if his clear mobility issues are a result of the accident.

The accident was in 2003, since then me made several tours in which he was in a great physical shape, 2005, 2006, 2008, then in 2010 he has some back issues and turned to good shape in 2013 and 2015 and then something happened in 2019.

Many many years later than the car accident and with plenty of in good shape tours in the middle.
Injuries that he seemed to sustained can come back to haunt you in later years unfortunately.
Title: Re: 23 years since Mark Knopfler's accident, today.
Post by: quizzaciously on March 11, 2025, 10:14:35 AM
You can barely find a healthy person of any age, let alone a 75-year-old. Everybody has their own damages and weak places, and Mark talked multiple times about having metal things in his body and whatnot, even joking about it, and his recent health status is pretty visible, so I can't understand those saints who again can't discuss it because it's personal. So far, I have not seen anything in this thread that would violate Mark's private life in any way, shape, or form. Just people caring about a famous person they admire.
Title: Re: 23 years since Mark Knopfler's accident, today.
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 11, 2025, 10:39:33 AM
I had tickets to see MK and EC's charity gig at the Albert Hall in March 2003.

After MK got injured the got Nigel Kennedy in playing terrible, terrible jazz violin. Not even gypsy jazz, Stephane Grapelli stuff, just terrible self indulgent nonsense. One of the worst things I've ever seen.

Then Clapton came on, Eric Clapton at the Royal Albert Hall, pretty good right? Eh, no, he had a bunch of his mates and they played Knock on Wood and Chuck Berry covers, like any band down the pub. Got to hear Gary Brooker singing Whiter Shade of Pale but that wasn't worth flying to London for frankly.
Title: Re: 23 years since Mark Knopfler's accident, today.
Post by: Robson on March 11, 2025, 10:53:38 AM
You can barely find a healthy person of any age, let alone a 75-year-old. Everybody has their own damages and weak places, and Mark talked multiple times about having metal things in his body and whatnot, even joking about it, and his recent health status is pretty visible, so I can't understand those saints who again can't discuss it because it's personal. So far, I have not seen anything in this thread that would violate Mark's private life in any way, shape, or form. Just people caring about a famous person they admire.

Free will.