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Title: Drop a youtube video where MK makes someone else's song (even more) beautiful
Post by: privinvest on September 02, 2024, 12:32:27 PM
Eric Clapton & Mark Knopfler - LAYLA
Music For Montserrat - Live At The Royal Albert Hall, London / 1997]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm1BBG5LkxA
Title: Re: Drop a youtube video where MK makes someone else's song (even more) beautiful
Post by: Rolo on September 02, 2024, 12:48:21 PM
The worst Layla version. EVER!
Title: Re: Drop a youtube video where MK makes someone else's song (even more) beautiful
Post by: Love Expresso on September 02, 2024, 01:06:51 PM
The worst Layla version. EVER!

LOL

LE
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Post by: quizzaciously on September 02, 2024, 02:05:57 PM
I don't think you can have a better answer to this post than this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXmnu22IsRk
Title: Re: Drop a youtube video where MK makes someone else's song (even more) beautiful
Post by: JF on September 02, 2024, 02:32:16 PM
this one is on my top of MK playing/singing a cover song :

https://youtu.be/rKL15u1clEc
Title: Re: Drop a youtube video where MK makes someone else's song (even more) beautiful
Post by: quizzaciously on September 02, 2024, 02:57:59 PM
this one is on my top of MK playing/singing a cover song :

https://youtu.be/rKL15u1clEc

Yeah, though opinions are a bit spit on this one. I've heard people complain it's too "cheesy", and too slow, Mark's singing is bad, and the original is much better. Comparing the two versions is pointless, of course, but this cover is a good tester of whether you "get" Mark's music or not. Yes, it's slow, and maybe a bit cheesy with this intro, Mark's singing is not singing, it's talking. There are way more good parts about it though than bad parts you can ever come up with, and it's objectively an amazing arrangement, perfect recording and reimagining of the 45-year-old song (at the time of recording).
Title: Re: Drop a youtube video where MK makes someone else's song (even more) beautiful
Post by: Pottel on September 02, 2024, 02:59:52 PM
Eric Clapton & Mark Knopfler - LAYLA
Music For Montserrat - Live At The Royal Albert Hall, London / 1997]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm1BBG5LkxA
perfect for this topic! so gentle, so....awesome...took away the memory of the original unplugged version
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Post by: Pottel on September 02, 2024, 03:00:10 PM
The worst Layla version. EVER!
huh? that bit though,...
Title: Re: Drop a youtube video where MK makes someone else's song (even more) beautiful
Post by: stratmad on September 02, 2024, 03:10:13 PM
I like the Montserrat version, but this one is a wee it better imho:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI3XaB64fys (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI3XaB64fys)
(heaven starts at around 7:00)
Title: Re: Drop a youtube video where MK makes someone else's song (even more) beautiful
Post by: Rolo on September 02, 2024, 03:13:57 PM
Yeah, though opinions are a bit spit on this one. I've heard people complain it's too "cheesy", and too slow, Mark's singing is bad, and the original is much better. Comparing the two versions is pointless, of course, but this cover is a good tester of whether you "get" Mark's music or not. Yes, it's slow, and maybe a bit cheesy with this intro, Mark's singing is not singing, it's talking. There are way more good parts about it though than bad parts you can ever come up with, and it's objectively an amazing arrangement, perfect recording and reimagining of the 45-year-old song (at the time of recording).

I always had mixed feelings about "featuring MK" songs.
Despite i always look MK as a genius guitarist (as the fact the he almost invented a unique language as a player), I always felt the MK brilliance in other people songs are conditioned to these songs needed to be very well founed on the style of MK.

That one, in particular, i don't really like. Mark's singing is OK, but his playing is a bit off. The cheesy arrangement is a detail.
Title: Re: Drop a youtube video where MK makes someone else's song (even more) beautiful
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on September 02, 2024, 03:18:18 PM
There is no spectacular guitar work, but this is so beautiful!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fKszPYmj7s

In general, I’m not a big fan of his instrumental contributions to songs. Not because of the contribution itself, but I think most producers and mixers don’t understand a thing about his playing. They totally butcher it with effects, making it sound too thin, with too much compression, etc.
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Post by: superval99 on September 02, 2024, 03:30:41 PM
There is no spectacular guitar work, but this is so beautiful!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fKszPYmj7s

In general, I’m not a big fan of his instrumental contributions to songs. Not because of the contribution itself, but I think most producers and mixers don’t understand a thing about his playing. They totally butcher it with effects, making it sound too thin, with too much compression, etc.

I love this song so much that one listen is not enough!    I have to listen over and over - it's so beautiful, especially the last verse.    :)
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Post by: quizzaciously on September 02, 2024, 03:39:25 PM
Also can't forget about this one. Impressive singing by our rapping hero!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zETZYo7TME
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Post by: Rolo on September 02, 2024, 03:41:32 PM
The worst Layla version. EVER!
huh? that bit though,...

No. Mark mind seems miles away from this song.
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Post by: quizzaciously on September 02, 2024, 03:44:34 PM
Also recently I was reminded of this song with Mark singing in the impressively high register:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GigzjefNLRI

And also with Van Morrison (this topic is destined just to list ALL Mark's collaborations though):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oPb2Ma9z2M
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Post by: dustyvalentino on September 02, 2024, 03:47:11 PM
Also can't forget about this one. Impressive singing by our rapping hero!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zETZYo7TME

This is a nice song and good backing track but absolutely the wrong key for MK at that stage :)
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Post by: stratmad on September 02, 2024, 05:41:30 PM
And one more from around that time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm2Ni8xGV5k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm2Ni8xGV5k)
Title: Re: Drop a youtube video where MK makes someone else's song (even more) beautiful
Post by: superval99 on September 02, 2024, 06:07:01 PM
And one more from around that time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm2Ni8xGV5k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm2Ni8xGV5k)

Very nice.  I have the Sult album and there's lots of lovely music on there which I like besides On Raglan Road - Rocks of Bawn with Paul Brady and St Dominics Preview, Van Morrison especially.
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Post by: Knopflerfan on September 02, 2024, 06:29:30 PM
Even as a Shads/Hank fan, I absolutely love MKs version of 'Atlantis' - such beautiful hammer ons!

https://youtu.be/QI4NK03L_h0?feature=shared
Title: Re: Drop a youtube video where MK makes someone else's song (even more) beautiful
Post by: MagicElliott on September 02, 2024, 08:07:12 PM
this one is on my top of MK playing/singing a cover song :

https://youtu.be/rKL15u1clEc

Yeah, though opinions are a bit spit on this one. I've heard people complain it's too "cheesy", and too slow, Mark's singing is bad, and the original is much better. Comparing the two versions is pointless, of course, but this cover is a good tester of whether you "get" Mark's music or not. Yes, it's slow, and maybe a bit cheesy with this intro, Mark's singing is not singing, it's talking. There are way more good parts about it though than bad parts you can ever come up with, and it's objectively an amazing arrangement, perfect recording and reimagining of the 45-year-old song (at the time of recording).

Amen. Hard to compare the two versions really. If you’re thinking about Louis Armstrong then Mark is not a singer!! If we hadn’t heard the original then we’d have nothing to compare it against.
But I love both versions.
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Post by: mschaap on September 02, 2024, 08:32:58 PM
Always liked this simple but effective Jon Allen song, Jon has got such a good voice. Mark’s acoustic fills and backing vocals are nice, they sound simple/understated but they are pure class in the category less is more and every note is just right, especially his solo from 2.26 onward.
 https://youtu.be/uAGIvnGkHkk?si=I_6P11l8dbbvfUj5 (https://youtu.be/uAGIvnGkHkk?si=I_6P11l8dbbvfUj5)
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Post by: darkshiver on September 02, 2024, 09:09:42 PM
Ruth Moody - Pockets (with Mark Knopfler)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsn5qet9Voo
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Post by: stratmad on September 02, 2024, 09:11:04 PM
And one more from around that time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm2Ni8xGV5k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm2Ni8xGV5k)

Very nice.  I have the Sult album and there's lots of lovely music on there which I like besides On Raglan Road - Rocks of Bawn with Paul Brady and St Dominics Preview, Van Morrison especially.

Oh yes, I love that song too! I still have no clue what it's actually about, but it sounds great. 🤣
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Post by: Robson on September 02, 2024, 10:04:01 PM
Finally, I bought Chimes of Freedom: The Songs of Bob Dylan (4 CD) There are many beautiful versions of Bob Dylan's songs by various artists. Mark closes the first album.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR18yeFxY84
Title: Re: Drop a youtube video where MK makes someone else's song (even more) beautiful
Post by: KnopfleRick on September 02, 2024, 10:14:10 PM
There is no spectacular guitar work, but this is so beautiful!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fKszPYmj7s

In general, I’m not a big fan of his instrumental contributions to songs. Not because of the contribution itself, but I think most producers and mixers don’t understand a thing about his playing. They totally butcher it with effects, making it sound too thin, with too much compression, etc.

I love this song so much that one listen is not enough!    I have to listen over and over - it's so beautiful, especially the last verse.    :)

Same here!
As soon as I start listening to this song I can hardly stop because it's so beautiful.
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Post by: stratmad on September 02, 2024, 10:49:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv82fSenLB8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv82fSenLB8)
My favourite song from a great album! Their version of "Could you, would you" is also on my all-time playlist.
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Post by: MagicElliott on September 02, 2024, 11:25:43 PM
Even as a Shads/Hank fan, I absolutely love MKs version of 'Atlantis' - such beautiful hammer ons!

https://youtu.be/QI4NK03L_h0?feature=shared

So good. You can tell it’s Mark I think….i’m pretty sure that I could be played the original and this and tell which is which. Think the drums are different too.
Title: Re: Drop a youtube video where MK makes someone else's song (even more) beautiful
Post by: KnopfleRick on September 02, 2024, 11:28:23 PM
This is one of my favourite covers by Mark of one of the best songs ever written. Beautiful!

https://youtu.be/rzY2wx_D7DU?si=GIXiGyuOW541fgra
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Post by: JF on September 03, 2024, 12:03:15 AM
and this one ?  ;D :lol

https://youtu.be/s4FJ81GSPqk
Title: Re: Drop a youtube video where MK makes someone else's song (even more) beautiful
Post by: stratmad on September 03, 2024, 12:11:53 AM
This is one of my favourite covers by Mark of one of the best songs ever written. Beautiful!

https://youtu.be/rzY2wx_D7DU?si=GIXiGyuOW541fgra

Wow! So beautiful. I didn't know this one before. Where have I been?  :lol

Edit: Can we have a thread "wishlist for An Album Of MK Singing Great Songs (with or without guitar)" ?
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Post by: Robson on September 03, 2024, 12:20:23 AM
Of course, This song is a must.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrTMfS263kc&t=1s
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Post by: KnopfleRick on September 03, 2024, 08:55:41 AM
Of course, This song is a must.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrTMfS263kc&t=1s

Absolutely one of my favourites.  So classic!
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Post by: superval99 on September 03, 2024, 08:56:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRudhoAejtw

Although I like Dirk Powell's version very much, I think MK does a very good interpretation of Waterbound.  :)
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Post by: Pottel on September 03, 2024, 09:00:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRudhoAejtw

Although I like Dirk Powell's version very much, I think MK does a very good interpretation of Waterbound.  :)
does not happen a lot, if at all, but in this case Dirk's version just takes me much further away, it,...hits me...
Title: Re: Drop a youtube video where MK makes someone else's song (even more) beautiful
Post by: Pottel on September 03, 2024, 09:03:02 AM
Finally, I bought Chimes of Freedom: The Songs of Bob Dylan (4 CD) There are many beautiful versions of Bob Dylan's songs by various artists. Mark closes the first album.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR18yeFxY84
weird choice for a cover version. with his lifelong being a fan i would have expected,...anything but this, does not suit his qualities.
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Post by: Pottel on September 03, 2024, 09:03:44 AM
Of course, This song is a must.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrTMfS263kc&t=1s
very much so!
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Post by: Pottel on September 03, 2024, 09:04:07 AM
This is one of my favourite covers by Mark of one of the best songs ever written. Beautiful!

https://youtu.be/rzY2wx_D7DU?si=GIXiGyuOW541fgra

Wow! So beautiful. I didn't know this one before. Where have I been?  :lol

Edit: Can we have a thread "wishlist for An Album Of MK Singing Great Songs (with or without guitar)" ?
suits him much better than the Restless Farewell BD cover.
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Post by: qjamesfloyd on September 03, 2024, 11:51:06 AM
Some of my favourites:
Big River - Jimmy Nail.
The Shouting Stage - Joan Armatrading.
Inamorata - Guy Fletcher
Sarah  - Jon Allen
Love Ove and Over - Kate and Anna McCarrigle
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Post by: mschaap on September 04, 2024, 02:19:07 PM
Some already have said this, but I too must admit that most MK collaborations seem rather pointless and/or plain weak. However, there indeed are some nice one's. Here is another one, a cover of an old song from the same writer as Feel like going home, in a quite unusal line-up (including Marcus Cliffe I believe) .
So much like Mark's guitar fills, which are all over the song, real nice sounding tasty blues licks, imho far better than what he brought to the table with his attemps at blues songs on his own solo albums. The BB King influence MK sometimes talks about seems pretty obvious here.
https://youtu.be/-AJUmcJB4Mo?si=JZ0DjM1TYJy93JlE (https://youtu.be/-AJUmcJB4Mo?si=JZ0DjM1TYJy93JlE)
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Post by: dustyvalentino on September 04, 2024, 03:00:00 PM
Some already have said this, but I too must admit that most MK collaborations seem rather pointless and/or plain weak. However, there indeed are some nice one's. Here is another one, a cover of an old song from the same writer as Feel like going home, in a quite unusal line-up (including Marcus Cliffe I believe) .
So much like Mark's guitar fills, which are all over the song, real nice sounding tasty blues licks, imho far better than what he brought to the table with his attemps at blues songs on his own solo albums. The BB King influence MK sometimes talks about seems pretty obvious here.
https://youtu.be/-AJUmcJB4Mo?si=JZ0DjM1TYJy93JlE (https://youtu.be/-AJUmcJB4Mo?si=JZ0DjM1TYJy93JlE)

It's such a good song it's hard to do a bad version of it. But at the same time I really can't see the point in listening to a cover when you could spend your time listening to the great Charlie Rich singing it.
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Post by: Brunno Nunes on September 04, 2024, 03:10:44 PM
I love this rendition made in 1997. https://youtu.be/zftcuVQDcNM?si=6u5jhN76UlppUSJW
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Post by: quizzaciously on September 04, 2024, 03:22:26 PM
I love this rendition made in 1997. https://youtu.be/zftcuVQDcNM?si=6u5jhN76UlppUSJW

I always found it funny when the people in the comment section for Mark's version of "Raglan Road" had fierce battles about whether his version is any good, and how it's miles behind The Dubliners/Luke Kelly version as if it's a sin to have different versions. I think Mark just channelled Van Morrison in his version as they are almost identical.
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Post by: Rolo on September 04, 2024, 04:11:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G64HwmRdsI

Mark's fast fingers!
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Post by: Pottel on September 04, 2024, 04:22:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G64HwmRdsI

Mark's fast fingers!

on of my absolute favourite songs of Brendan...
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Post by: Brunno Nunes on September 04, 2024, 05:34:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G64HwmRdsI

Mark's fast fingers!

I can't believe I spent all this time without knowing these songs, I loved them, and what a delivery from Mark on the guitar here, he really got involved! 🎸
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Post by: stratmad on September 04, 2024, 06:05:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G64HwmRdsI

Mark's fast fingers!

on of my absolute favourite songs of Brendan...

Abolutely! I love the lyrics, too - it's on a par with "In the Air Tonight". "One day I'll get my very dirty revenge on you..." ;-)

One of the best albums ever made, imho.
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Post by: stratmad on September 04, 2024, 06:14:06 PM
I love this rendition made in 1997. https://youtu.be/zftcuVQDcNM?si=6u5jhN76UlppUSJW

I always found it funny when the people in the comment section for Mark's version of "Raglan Road" had fierce battles about whether his version is any good, and how it's miles behind The Dubliners/Luke Kelly version as if it's a sin to have different versions.

Of course It's A Sin! Go ask the fans of the Pet Shop Boys  :lol
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Post by: Rolo on September 04, 2024, 07:40:08 PM
I never saw MK as a Blues Guitar Hero (he isn't)
He can play it for sure.
However, there are some variations that MK really shines.

In Congo Square, Mark is KILLING!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn3ES70mdl8

Where Is The Next I'm Coming Froom - At this time Mark was still "stealing" from Albert King
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJy8JYuNKNs
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Post by: naif on September 04, 2024, 07:49:53 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hAONSmh6MX4



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e8ttnVsTm-E&pp=ygUbam9vbHMgaG9sbGFuZCBtYXJrIGtub3BmbGVy

Again with jools:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K8YLQ4DSqtA&pp=ygUbam9vbHMgaG9sbGFuZCBtYXJrIGtub3BmbGVy
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Post by: naif on September 04, 2024, 07:52:40 PM
https://youtu.be/tB-REeOyC2E?si=1qdvdh4K_kaK0WOY
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Post by: TJ on September 04, 2024, 09:41:17 PM
Actually came here to post Congo Square, but was beaten to it, so I'll go with Thomas Dolby's 17 Hills: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad9K30AlfSg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad9K30AlfSg)

I also enjoy this discussion by Thomas Dolby about getting Mark's part recorded.  I posted this link on Guy's website once and asked if much of Mark's work is comped this heavily, but he deleted it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1OBXlEC4_Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1OBXlEC4_Q)
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Post by: Pottel on September 04, 2024, 09:58:28 PM
I never saw MK as a Blues Guitar Hero (he isn't)
He can play it for sure.
However, there are some variations that MK really shines.

In Congo Square, Mark is KILLING!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn3ES70mdl8

Where Is The Next I'm Coming Froom - At this time Mark was still "stealing" from Albert King
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJy8JYuNKNs
congo square and Blue Tarp blues are some of the best moments where Mark shines on other people's songs...amazing stuff
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Post by: dustyvalentino on September 04, 2024, 11:26:44 PM
Actually came here to post Congo Square, but was beaten to it, so I'll go with Thomas Dolby's 17 Hills: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad9K30AlfSg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad9K30AlfSg)

I also enjoy this discussion by Thomas Dolby about getting Mark's part recorded.  I posted this link on Guy's website once and asked if much of Mark's work is comped this heavily, but he deleted it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1OBXlEC4_Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1OBXlEC4_Q)

Lolz