A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => One Deep River / The Boy => Topic started by: Nick14 on April 16, 2024, 03:14:34 PM
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So...just for a bit of fun, and I know it is very early days, create your own album from the One Deep River Sessions. Let's keep it to a max of 12 songs (just to make it ultra hard....) - but no rules other than that - you can even give your album a different name if you want to! So - what are is your perfect 12 song album from these sessions? I would bet now that no two of these will be the same.
I will go first - and I may do this again in a month to see how much I have changed my mind.....but, today, I present to you...
Nothing But Rain, by Mark Knopfler
1. Two Pairs of Hands
2. Smart Money
3. Your Leading Man
4. Black Tie Jobs
5. Along a Foreign Coast
6. Fat Chance Dupree
7. Janine
8. Ahead of the Game
9. Watch Me Gone
10. Dolly Shop Man
11. Nothing But Rain
12. This One's Not Going To End Well
Am I mad?!? No original title track? No Scavengers? No Tunnel 13? It was tough - and I have to say I like every one of the 21 songs - not one of them I dislike - something to enjoy in all of them for me - I love the range and variety - in a months time I suspect my perfect 12 may be different - but that's my starter to get us going.....
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You are mad, where is All Comers?
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Ouch, a hard one with this record! Would have been easier to pick 3 out of KTGC. :lol
1 Smart money
2 Scavengers yard
3 Tunnel 13
4 Janine
5 Before my train comes
6 One deep river
7 The living end
8 Fat chance dupree
9 Along a foreign coast
10 Dolly shop man
11 Wrong ‘un
12 Chess
You are mad, where is All Comers?
Ah, that’s the EP! ;D maybe the three others are also killer songs… :think
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I should have added - not counting The Boy - most of us haven't heard that yet....so pick from the 21 songs only......for now!!
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OK here goes but very difficult espeically when you like 20 out of the 21 new songs!
Mark Knopfler - Your Leadng Man (get it??!!)
1) Dolly shop man
2) Black Tie Jobs
3) Scavengers Yard
4) Janine
5) Fat chance Dupree
6) Tunnel 13
7) Your Leading Man
8) Before my train comes
9) Ahead of the game
10) Along a foreign coast
11) One Deep River
12) Chess
13) All Comers!! - AMIT members bonus track!!
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I can't give a rating at the moment, as this album contains a lot of top-class songs.
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First of all - brilliant question! The bonus tracks should've been on the main album because it really needs a lift and most people will just buy the standard one and never hear the best songs.
1. The Living End
2. Black Tie Jobs
3. Tunnel 13
4. Your Leading Man
5. Dolly Shop Man
6. Chess
7. Scavengers Yard
8. Janine
9. Before My Train Comes
10. Smart Money
11. Along a Foreign Coast
12. One Deep River
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Tricky one, because there are just 6 tracks I like and listen to :think
1 The living end
2 Scavengers yard
3 Nothing but rain
4 One deep river
5 Before my train comes
6 Two pairs
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7 Ahead of
8 Tunnel 13
9 Janine
10 Smart money
11 Fat chance dupree
12 Along a foreign coast
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Keep them coming folks! On a side note - I think I had 19 songs from the DTRW sessions. With Mark, more than any other artist I have ever listened to, I think of many of his albums as not just whatever is on the standard album (and with DRTW I am not sure I still understand what songs were on the standard version of that! I think I own 3 versions, all of which have different track listings - and different running orders!) - but rather I consider all the songs released from the sessions. So I already think of ODR as these 21 songs. I think of DTRW as the 19 songs. That doesn't hold for all Mark's albums, but certainly it does, with me at least, in terms of the 2nd half of his solo career.
There's a chap on here who i see always saying how much he hates DTRW - ! Fair enough - we like what we like. I liked much of DTRW - only 3 songs left me a little cold - Back on the Dancefloor, Nobody Does That and Good on You Son. Other than that, it was another terrific batch of songs, and I really loved the variety of styles and sounds, from Heavy Up, to rear View Mirror, from Sky and Water, to Don't Suck Me In, from Trapper Man to Matchstick Man. So, for me I would not say that this batch of 21 songs clearly outshines the last batch of 19. Anyway - I am now off to work out what my 12 song batch would be from the DTRW sessions!
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waiting for the new songs...
(https://i.postimg.cc/TwfzFLCj/track-list.jpg)
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You'll have to chop two from that I'm afraid and remove All Comers......!
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Only twelve songs is quite hard, but I try ;D
1. Two Pairs of Hands
2. The Living End
3. Black Tie Jobs
4. Scavengers Yard
5. Tunnel 13
6. Along a Foreign Coast
7. Dolly Shop Man
8. Watch Me Gone
9. Sweeter Than the Rain
10. Before My Train Comes
11. This Ones Not Going to End Well
12. One Deep River
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1. Two Pairs Of Hands
2. Dolly Shop Man
3. Smart Money
4. Scavengers Yard
5. Black Tie Jobs
6. Tunnel 13
7. All Comers
8. Watch Me Gone
9. The Living End
10. Before My Train Comes
11. This One’s Not Going To End Well
12. One Deep River
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Oef, this is a really tricky one.
As I've said before, I really like this album as a coherent thing.
And I find something beautiful in almost every song of Mark.
So here is what my tracklist would be:
1. Two Pairs Of Hands
2. Ahead Of The Game
3. Dolly Shop Man
4. Scavengers Yard
5. The Living End
6. Tunnel 13
7. Janine
8. Watch Me Gone
9. Along A Foreign Coast
10. Before My Train Comes
11. Nothing But Rain
12. One Deep River
Bonus CD tracklist:
1. Sweeter Than The Rain
2. Wrong 'un
3. Smart Money
4. Black Tie Jobs
5. Your Leading Man
6. Fat Chance Dupree
7. This One’s Not Going To End Well
8. Chess
I could live without the existance of:
What I'm Gonna Need
I really tried to keep the coherence of the album, but I upped the tempo of the songs a little.
But it was really hard swapping out Smart Money and Sweeter Than The Rain for example.
Looking forward to saturday and discovering 3 more songs!
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Looking at all your lists, this is kind of like the 50 year argument that The Beatles' "white album" should have been a single album - but nobody can agree on which tracks would be kept!
Smart Money and This One's Not Going To End Well are two of my favourites but missing from lots of these selections. :)
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Looking at all your lists, this is kind of like the 50 year argument that The Beatles' "white album" should have been a single album - but nobody can agree on which tracks would be kept!
Smart Money and This One's Not Going To End Well are two of my favourites but missing from lots of these selections. :)
Both are in my selection!
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Looking at all your lists, this is kind of like the 50 year argument that The Beatles' "white album" should have been a single album - but nobody can agree on which tracks would be kept!
Smart Money and This One's Not Going To End Well are two of my favourites but missing from lots of these selections. :)
Both are in my selection!
You are clearly a man of impeccable taste :)
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And...erm....ahem....both are in mine - the selection that kicked this thread off! Be interesting to see after a while what songs are most common amongst us all.
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My selection:
1. Ahead of the Game
2. Fat Chance Dupree
3. Two Pairs of Hands
4. Scavengers Yard
5. Along a Foreign Coast
6. The Living End
7. Tunnel 13
8. Janine
9. Watch Me Gone
10.Before My Train Comes
11.Dolly Shop Man
12.One Deep River
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You'll have to chop two from that I'm afraid and remove All Comers......!
:P
(https://i.postimg.cc/SQX2M5fh/12-version.jpg)
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Well done!
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I rather like the 12 tracks on the album so I'll stick with that.
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Not tempted by a single one of the other 9 songs?? Are you Guy Fletcher in disguise? Ha! Excellent.
Very interesting to see the picks here - and the ones mostly not picked. Seems Dolly Shop really should have been on there........
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1. Dolly shop man
2. Smart money
3. The living end
4. Black tie jobs
5 Tunnel 13
6. Janine
7. Nothing but rain
8 Fat chance dupree
9. Sweeter than rain
10 Ahead of the game
11. Along a foreign coast
12. Before my train comes
13. Watch me gone
14 Chess
I cheated a bit ;-)
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You did! Force yourself....cut two more.....you know you can.....I like the look of your album though.
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This one's very easy
1. Two pairs of hands
2. Scavenger's yard
3. Tunnel 13
4. Janine
5. Watch me gone
6. Sweeter than the rain
7. Before my train comes
8. One deep river
9. The living end
10. Nothing but the rain
11. Dolly Shop Man
12. Wrong 'un
If All Comers counts then Nothing but the rain is out. I like my records rocky and rootsy. ;D
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1. Two pairs of hands
2. Ahead of the Game
3. The living end
4. Scavengers yard
5. Dolly shop man
6. Tunnel 13
7. Janine
8. Watch me gone
9. Before my train comes
10. One deep river
I think it's the best! ;D
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I can't do 12, sorry. I think no songs should be excluded.
By the way, I haven't heard The Boy EP, as well as the vinyl bonus tracks (Dolly Shop Man and others) (really wish I did, if I could only find them online).. Look forward to hearing at some point and putting together a definite tracklist of 25 songs.
So, here's my list of what I consider to be the best listen (so far), based on what I've heard so far and know.
1. Before My Train Comes
2. Smart Money
3. This One's Not Going To End Well
4. Watch Me Gone
5. Janine
6. Black Tie Jobs
7. One Deep River
8. Nothing But Rain
9. Tunnel 13
10. Ahead of the Game
11. Two Pairs of Hands
12. Sweeter Than The Rain
13. Scavanger's Yard
14. What I'm Gonna Need
15. Fat Chance Dupree
16. The Living End
17. Along A Foreign Coast
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Can I keep the track list as it is, but invite the band back to British Grove and have them re-record all synth parts with proper instruments? :D
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Ha! And 17 really is cheating. Feel bad for the 4 left off!
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Realised you literally picked all you have heard so far! Ha! Fair enough. If you're not cutting what I'm gonna need you're not cutting anything.
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OK, I'm changing the rules. For anyone interested the challenge is now to compile an album from the 25 songs we have from the sessions. A single album, so a max of say 14 songs. I'll need to take some time bow I've heard The Boy! But what a gift. 25 new songs from Mark, every single one is interesting and imaginative. Quite remarkable.
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After several listens this is my definitive list of favorites:
1. Two Pairs Of Hands
2. Ahead Of The Game
3. All Comers
4. Scavengers Yard
5. The Living End
6. Dolly Shop Man
7. Janine
8. Before My Train Comes
9. Tunnel 13
10. One Deep River
I just can't do that for 12 songs. Maybe I exaggerate but to me these songs sound like a Greatest Hits! :D
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Thanks, interesting, I'm nearing the point of naming my favourites soon, after about a dozen or more listens to all 25 songs. What is also interesting to me is that 5, perhaps 6 of your favourite 10 will not be amongst my favourite 14. Which us testament to the remarkable quality and variety of all 25 songs.
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Thanks, interesting, I'm nearing the point of naming my favourites soon, after about a dozen or more listens to all 25 songs. What is also interesting to me is that 5, perhaps 6 of your favourite 10 will not be amongst my favourite 14. Which us testament to the remarkable quality and variety of all 25 songs.
And this is what unites us MK fans, the variety and beauty of his songs. ;)
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Thanks, interesting, I'm nearing the point of naming my favourites soon, after about a dozen or more listens to all 25 songs. What is also interesting to me is that 5, perhaps 6 of your favourite 10 will not be amongst my favourite 14. Which us testament to the remarkable quality and variety of all 25 songs.
And this is what unites us MK fans, the variety and beauty of his songs. ;)
Exactly!
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Spot on.
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1. Dolly Shop Man
2. Black Tie Jobs
3. Smart Money
4. Scavengers Yard
5. The Boy
6. All Comers
7. Your Leading Man
8. Janine
9. Two Pairs of Hands
10. Bad Day for a Knife Thrower
11. This One’s Not Going to End Well
12. One Deep River
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01. Two pair of hands
02. Ahead of the game
03. Nothing but Rain
04. Scavengers Yard
05. Black Tie Jobs
06. Tunnel 13
07. Janine
08. Watch me gone
09. Dolly Shop Man
10. Before my train comes
11. The living end
12. This One's not going to end well
13. One Big River
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my....
standard abum
01 - All Commers
02 - Bad Day For A Knife Thrower
03 - Smart Money
04 - Scavengers Yard
05 - Black Tie Jobs
06 - Your Leading Man
07 - The Boy
08 - The Living End
09 - Before My Train Comes
10 - One Deep River
11 - Janine
12 - Tunnel 13
deluxe edition
13 - Two Pairs Of Hands
14 - Ahead Of The Game
15 - Sweeter Than The Rain
16 - Watch Me Gone
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01. Janine
02. Black Tie Jobs
03. Tunnel 13
04. One Deep River
05. Before my train comes
06. This One's not going to end well
07. Watch me gone
08. Ahead of the game
09. Two pair of hands
10. Scavengers Yard
11. Smart Money
12. Sweeter Than The Rain
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1. Mr Solomons Said
2. This Ones Not Going To End Well
3. Chess
4. Along A Foreign Coast
5. One Deep River
6. Fat Chance Dupree
7. All Comers
8. Before My Train Comes
9. Nothing But Rain
10. Tunnel 13
11. Janine
12. Watch Me Gone
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Considering that I yet haven't heard the songs from the Deluxe version, this is what I can come up with. I think Two Pairs of Hands is a nice opener as it is, but then it takes a different road.
1. Two Pairs of Hands
2. Dolly Shop Man
3. All Comers
4. Janine
5. Scavengers Yard
6. Ahead of the Game
7. Chess
8. Watch Me Gone
9. Before My Train Comes
10. The Boy
11. Tunnel 13
12. One Deep River
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If anyone is interested, I tried making an album of all 25 songs. Might make a 12-14 track album eventually and share it here, but this is going to be my current listening for a while.
01. Smart Money
02. Black Tie Jobs
03. What I'm Gonna Need
04. Tunnel 13
05. Bad Day For A Knife Thrower
06. Nothing But Rain
07. Wrong 'Un
08. Mr Solomons Said
09. Janine
10. Chess
11. Ahead Of The Game
12. All Comers
13. Your Leading Man
14. Two Pairs Of Hands
15. Sweeter Than The Rain
16. Scavanger's Yard
17. Fat Chance Dupree
18. Along A Foreign Coast
19. Before My Train Comes
20. The Boy
21. One Deep River
22. Dolly Shop Man
23. This One's Not Going To End Well
24. The Living End
25. Watch Me Gone
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Great stuff folks! I'm off to see Bruce Springsteen in Cardiff but will post mine when I get back!
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Right - Bruce was terrific in Cardiff on Sunday night - but to matters in hand. My wife and I both had a go at this - completely independently of each other - and, quite amazingly, we had only one song different out of 14!!!
My pick was:
1. All Comers
2. Two Pairs of Hands
3. Smart Money
4. Black Tie Jobs
5. Fat Chance Dupree
6. Janine
7. Watch Me Gone
8. This One's Not Going To End Well
9. Ahead of the Game
10. Your Leading Man
11. Dolly Shop Man
12. Along a Foreign Coast
13. Nothing But Rain
14. The Boy
My wife had One Deep River instead of This One's Not Going To End Well (and a different order).
I will see if I can can fit the 15 songs we picked onto a CD - and add the new Going Home as a bonus track!
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My list is only based on the album and the EP, the material which I've hard.
My feeling is that the album, as it stands, does not work as a record that I would want to play straight through - too many slow songs, and odd structure, with the energetic and guitar-based songs up front. Including All Comers, and spreading out Two Pairs of Hands / Ahead of the Game/ Scavengers Yard, makes this more of a vintage Knopfler album in my view, more akin to GH / STP / RPD.
Here goes:
1. All Comers
2. Two Pairs of Hands
3. Janine
4. Ahead of the Game
5. Watch me Gone
6. Scavengers Yard
7. Tunnel 13
8. Before My Train Comes
9. One Deep River
That's all I need. ODR is a majestic closer and should remain in that slot, though the best and most epic songs may in fact be Watch Me Gone and Tunnel 13.
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I think the ODR sessions are the most interesting since STP. I'd have loved to see a Privateering-alike double CD release; there's so much good material on the Bonus LP and EP! The regular 12-track release is brilliant, it flows really well. That said, I've been listening to the sessions like this:
CD 1:
Two Pairs Of Hands
The Boy
Scavengers Yard
Bad Day For A Knife Thrower
Sweeter Than The Rain
Dolly Shop Man
Tunnel 13
Fat Chance Dupree
This One's Not Going To End Well
Before My Train Comes
CD 2:
The Living End
Your Leading Man
Chess
Smart Money
Janine
Ahead Of The Game
Along A Foreign Coast
Watch Me Gone
All Comers
One Deep River
Bonus CD:
Mr. Solomons Said
What I'm Gonna Need
Black Tie Jobs
Nothing But Rain
Wrong Un
Edit: here's my 12-track release ;D
The Living End
The Boy
Smart Money
Scavengers Yard
Bad Day For A Knife Thrower
Dolly Shop Man
Tunnel 13
Janine
This One's Not Going To End Well
Before My Train Comes
All Comers
One Deep River
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This thread has proven that many members here cannot count :smack
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This thread has proven that many members here cannot count :smack
I did it in 9, I won ;D
Seriously, what's the harm?
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I'll try and it will definitely be 12 ;)
Two Pairs of Hands
Ahead of the Game
Smart Money
Scavengers Yard
Black Tie Jobs
Tunnel 13
Janine
Watch Me Gone
Sweeter Than the Rain
Before My Train Comes
This One's Not Going to End Well
One Deep River