A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => One Deep River / The Boy => Topic started by: Jules on January 30, 2024, 11:41:00 AM
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Tunnel 13 5:27
In the Siskiyou Mountains, the old railroad winds
Through the golds of the maples and the green of the pines
Up to Tunnel 13, the Southern she climbs
And three bandits waiting with evil in mind
The D'Autremont brothers had chosen their road
Chosen to live by a criminal code
Word was the mail car was loaded with gold
The brothers had heard it, or had maybe been told
They wanted no witnesses, that was a fact
The brothers were bent on a barbarous act
Gold there was none, only sadness and tears
And the law coming after them year after year
Three bandits, hearts filled with resentment and hate
Killed mail clerk Elvyn Daugherty, engineer Sydney Bates
With shotgun and pistols, they were panicking when
They killed brakeman Coyle Johnson and fireman Marvin Seng
Robbing and looting is as old as the hills
They're still jumping freight trains with crowbars and drills
A hundred years later in Downtown LA
They rob the Union Pacific damn near every day
Four good men lay murdered in the dogwoods and pines
Leaving widows and children and heartbreak behind
Tunnel 13 is the place in the song
Where the beautiful redwood for my guitar came from
https://thatoregonlife.com/2017/04/tunnel-13-oregon/
Tunnel 13 in Oregon Has a Dark History, And It’s Calling Your Name
The last great train robbery of the west happened near Ashland, Oregon.
It's known as the Siskiyou Station, and the history here is incredible — this is where the last train robbery known in the United States happened.
On a dark and stormy night on October 11, 1923, Twins Ray and Roy D’Autremont were 23 years old when they were joined by their teenage brother, Hugh, in robbing Southern Pacific’s Gold Special train in hopes of collecting the half-million dollars in gold rumored to be on board that day. As the train made it's way up the Siskiyou Pass, it slowed to enter Tunnel 13 when the brothers hopped on board. They ordered the conductor Sidney Bates to stop the train at gunpoint and attempted to blow the locked door of the mail car with a stick of dynamite.
Not knowing how powerful the blast would be, they blew up the whole mail car and the clerk inside with it. They shot and killed three railroad employees who heard the commotion, who were staying in the stay house right next to the tracks. Finally, they blasted the poor conductor right in the head with a shotgun and fled into the woods.
To make matters worse, there was no gold to be found. There was a nationwide manhunt that included the federal government, Oregon National Guard troops, local posses, and angry railroad workers. But the brothers laid low, then slipped through the dragnet.
It wasn't until years later in 1927 when the younger brother caught while was serving in the military in the Philippines. Shortly thereafter, the twins were arrested in Ohio.
Forensic research lead to a conviction of the brothers, and Ray DeAutremont was the last of the brothers to be released from prison, on October 27, 1961. He was elderly now of course, and even wrote a book about the robbery.
Years later in November of 2003, the tunnel burned and was rebuilt. When exploring here, you can find old bunk and maintenance shacks and a great view of the Colestin Valley at the other side of the tunnel. Due to the poor maintenance of the tracks, the trains are said to move pretty slow. The Siskiyou Summit rail line is said to also be the steepest in use on the West Coast. The rail line was reopened in 2015 and is currently operated by Corp. Railroad.
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Sounds like a good subject for Mark to write a song about.
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‘Tunnel 13’ is a new example of Knopfler’s eye and ear for a gripping yarn, an instinct that goes back to his journalistic training in the years before Dire Straits became one of the biggest bands in the world. Reminiscent of his telling of the story of adventurers Mason and Dixon in ‘Sailing To Philadelphia,’ it centres on the real-life Western tale of a train robbery staged in the Siskiyou Mountains in 1923.
The song’s bridge to modern times is skilfully constructed, since the redwood used in the construction of the ‘Tunnel 13’ at the scene of that century-old crime became one of the most treasured woods in the making of the flat-top guitars that Knopfler reveres so much.
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"Tunnel Thirteen picks up where Dire Straits’ “Telegraph Road” … began. This tune leaves the station at a slow and steady pace. It never picks up speed, but the tale is full of steam. It’s the longest track on the record, and it tells of “three bandits waiting, with evil in mind” who are “still jumping freight trains … a hundred years later.” (Trains are a frequent topic in Knopfler’s Brit’mericana oeuvre; another track on One Deep River is “Before My Train Comes.”)
Like many of the tracks on this record, "Tunnel Thirteen" is Knopfler recounting how the more things change, the more they stay the same. Even the outro instrumental part keeps the pace, a haunting melody defined more by a refrain of steady and somber harmonies rather than ferocious guitar licks kicking up dust"
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"Tunnel Thirteen picks up where Dire Straits’ “Telegraph Road” … began. This tune leaves the station at a slow and steady pace. It never picks up speed, but the tale is full of steam. It’s the longest track on the record, and it tells of “three bandits waiting, with evil in mind” who are “still jumping freight trains … a hundred years later.” (Trains are a frequent topic in Knopfler’s Brit’mericana oeuvre; another track on One Deep River is “Before My Train Comes.”)
Like many of the tracks on this record, "Tunnel Thirteen" is Knopfler recounting how the more things change, the more they stay the same. Even the outro instrumental part keeps the pace, a haunting melody defined more by a refrain of steady and somber harmonies rather than ferocious guitar licks kicking up dust"
Excellent! This confirms that the second track heard in video 1 is the outro from Tunnel 13.
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Why would you think so? Almost all outros are "instrumental"..
LE
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Why would you think so? Almost all outros are "instrumental"..
LE
Because it says “a haunting melody defined more by a refrain of steady and somber harmonies rather than ferocious guitar licks kicking up dust”
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Exclusive content from the lock bridge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fQM_r_MzEk&t=113s
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Exclusive content from the lock bridge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fQM_r_MzEk&t=113s
Thank you very much Dutchessy :)
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I guess it would have been too much to expect that they would give us a 30 second-snippet of the song that he talks about. :think..
LE
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I was expecting music too :(
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"Tunnel Thirteen picks up where Dire Straits’ “Telegraph Road” … began. This tune leaves the station at a slow and steady pace. It never picks up speed, but the tale is full of steam. It’s the longest track on the record, and it tells of “three bandits waiting, with evil in mind” who are “still jumping freight trains … a hundred years later.” (Trains are a frequent topic in Knopfler’s Brit’mericana oeuvre; another track on One Deep River is “Before My Train Comes.”)
Like many of the tracks on this record, "Tunnel Thirteen" is Knopfler recounting how the more things change, the more they stay the same. Even the outro instrumental part keeps the pace, a haunting melody defined more by a refrain of steady and somber harmonies rather than ferocious guitar licks kicking up dust"
Excellent! This confirms that the second track heard in video 1 is the outro from Tunnel 13.
I said in the other thread, that the second track in video 1 (instrumental keyboard) is not excatly the outro from Tunnel 13....
But...
after several listenings... I think (but not sure) that the instrumental part in video EPK is the keyboard part of the outro from Tunnel 13. It('s the same key
but not really sure...
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Wooooow what a track! LOVE IT.
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I don't know if I want to know more or less by Friday :)
Dutchessy you've heard the whole album?
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Wooooow what a track! LOVE IT.
Did you receive the album already?
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I don't know if I want to know more or less by Friday :)
Dutchessy you've heard the whole album?
listening now yes
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I don't know if I want to know more or less by Friday :)
Dutchessy you've heard the whole album?
listening now yes
Write more.
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i cried.... but maybe i'm just a pussy... but what a track is this. I love the guitar, i love the intro and Mark's singing is powerful. Guitarless outro maybe less exciting.. But i love it
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Like this one a lot. Basically a reworking of Terminal of Tribute To.
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Like this one a lot. Basically a reworking of Terminal of Tribute To.
I always felt that "Back on the dance floor" was remake of TOTT. Is this song similar to both of these melodically?
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Little bit to Terminal perhaps.. but far better imo.. living end (bonus track) is similar to dancefloor
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Like this one a lot. Basically a reworking of Terminal of Tribute To.
I always felt that "Back on the dance floor" was remake of TOTT. Is this song similar to both of these melodically?
I never really thought so. It was actually another fan who suggested TOTT and now I hear it it's so obvious. I knew it reminded me of something and I thought So Far from the Clyde but when TOTT was suggested that's all I can hear. It's very obvious.
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Little bit to Terminal perhaps.. but far better imo.. living end (bonus track) is similar to dancefloor
The Living End has exactly the same beat as El Macho minus the "horns."
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Little bit to Terminal perhaps.. but far better imo.. living end (bonus track) is similar to dancefloor
The Living End has exactly the same beat as El Macho minus the "horns."
Thank god its minus the horns!!
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I really can't believe that he include the lines telling the wood of his guitar comes from Tunnel 13, LOL
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I can't understand the excitement about Tunnel 13 to be honest. It's a good song but nothing special in my book. I like that he lists the names of the victims in the lyrics. The names of the robbers are well known. MK gives sort of justice to the killed people in mentioning their names. This is the song on the album that reminds of Dire Straits the most and that is probably the reason so many people love it, but for example, So Far From The Clyde is much better.
I prefer This One's Not Going To End Well over Tunnel 13 every day. It has such a nice melody, great lyrics, is in the same area as Pale Imitation. And it fits much better to 74y old MK.
Just my two cents of course.
LE
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I am in love with this track since the first minute. Just listened in the car on high volume. My favourite of the album. I like that it starts slow, then swells, beautiful storytelling, the band joins (wow).. then guitarssss followed by the quiet middle part and then again boooom with cool guitar solo. Classic Knopfler.
I like this one more than So Far from the Clyde. This one has more punch and engergy. SFFTC is too slow imo..
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I am in love with this track since the first minute. Just listened in the car on high volume. My favourite of the album. I like that it starts slow, then swells, beautiful storytelling, the band joins (wow).. then guitarssss followed by the quiet middle part and then again boooom with cool guitar solo. Classic Knopfler.
I like this one more than So Far from the Clyde. This one has more punch and engergy. SFFTC is too slow imo..
Are we talking about the same song? ;D :lol Swells? Band joins? :think Cool guitar solo?
LE
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I am in love with this track since the first minute. Just listened in the car on high volume. My favourite of the album. I like that it starts slow, then swells, beautiful storytelling, the band joins (wow).. then guitarssss followed by the quiet middle part and then again boooom with cool guitar solo. Classic Knopfler.
I like this one more than So Far from the Clyde. This one has more punch and engergy. SFFTC is too slow imo..
Are we talking about the same song? ;D :lol Swells? Band joins? :think
LE
Swells = i mean suspension building... or song building... first the intro with the lady voices... than MK singing alone... the bands kicks in at 00.57.. awesome first minute.
Guitar at 1.27 is freaking nice... And from 3.28 on it's even nicer.. Cool stuff around 4.04...
Anyway... if you don't like that, i'm sorry ;D I think it's fantastic.
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Oh it's a ok song. I did not say that I don't like it. Isn't it nice that this album has to offer something for everyone it seems?
I agree that the Lady's vocals intro is very nice, very unusual.
LE
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Fair enough :) I'm glad there are songs for everbody on all MK albums.
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I really can't believe that he include the lines telling the wood of his guitar comes from Tunnel 13, LOL
I know exactly what you mean and I thought about it. The complete lyrics are in the style of a street ballad (in German an ancient word would be "Moritat".).The street Balladeer tells the listeners stories about evil bloody crimes (the character in Madame Geneva would be such a person). The end is always moralizing, judging. I think MK takes the role of a balladeer here. Though the words of these people were rhyming, they were not seen as a very high art, and with this in mind his somewhat "unpoetic" last sentence about his guitar makes perfect sense to me. I hope I make myself clear. It is done on purpose as a stylistic device.
I listened a couple of times now and it is growing on me (Dutchessy :wave ;D)
LE
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Dieses alte Rotholz hat eine schrecklichen Geschichte, die zeigt: Selbst blutige Gewalt kann indirekt etwas Positives bewirken. Denn das Material für meine Gitarren stammt aus dem Tunnel – dem Schienenholz von damals. Es hat eine unglaublich gute Qualität und einen makabren Hintergrund: Ein grausames Verbrechen
https://www.waz.de/kultur/article242069282/Ist-One-Deep-River-Mark-Knopflers-letztes-Album.html
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I really can't believe that he include the lines telling the wood of his guitar comes from Tunnel 13, LOL
I know exactly what you mean and I thought about it. The complete lyrics are in the style of a street ballad (in German an ancient word would be "Moritat".).The street Balladeer tells the listeners stories about evil bloody crimes (the character in Madame Geneva would be such a person). The end is always moralizing, judging. I think MK takes the role of a balladeer here. Though the words of these people were rhyming, they were not seen as a very high art, and with this in mind his somewhat "unpoetic" last sentence about his guitar makes perfect sense to me. I hope I make myself clear. It is done on purpose as a stylistic device.
I listened a couple of times now and it is growing on me (Dutchessy :wave ;D)
LE
Listing the names, as he does in Remembrance Day, gives the song a sense of realism and makes the story all the more potent. That's how I view it anyway.
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The way he sings this song reminded me of the way he sings Back to Tupelo and Terminal of Tribute To, a mix of these two, at least for me!
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I really can't believe that he include the lines telling the wood of his guitar comes from Tunnel 13, LOL
I know exactly what you mean and I thought about it. The complete lyrics are in the style of a street ballad (in German an ancient word would be "Moritat".).The street Balladeer tells the listeners stories about evil bloody crimes (the character in Madame Geneva would be such a person). The end is always moralizing, judging. I think MK takes the role of a balladeer here. Though the words of these people were rhyming, they were not seen as a very high art, and with this in mind his somewhat "unpoetic" last sentence about his guitar makes perfect sense to me. I hope I make myself clear. It is done on purpose as a stylistic device.
I listened a couple of times now and it is growing on me (Dutchessy :wave ;D)
LE
Listing the names, as he does in Remembrance Day, gives the song a sense of realism and makes the story all the more potent. That's how I view it anyway.
Indeed, the names made me also think of Remembrance Day immediately. Realism is exactly the right word for what he is trying here. I love when he does that.
LE
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Anyone notice a little slip by Mark on the guitar at approximately 2:34 after he sings "fireman Marvin Seng".
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Emotionally reminiscent of Dream of the Drowned Submariner for me, it hits in a way an MK song hasn't touched me for some time. Great suspenseful, sad lyrics, great musical choices and an easy standout for me so far.
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Even more a very strong contender for 2nd fave track after One Deep River having heard MK talk a little about this track when I saw him in London for the album release event. He spoke passionately about the Redwood used to make his guitars and the connection with tunnel 13...
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Anyone notice a little slip by Mark on the guitar at approximately 2:34 after he sings "fireman Marvin Seng".
Funny story on "slips" here:
https://www.vincentownersclub.co.uk/threads/mark-knopfler.10586/ (https://www.vincentownersclub.co.uk/threads/mark-knopfler.10586/)
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Thinking about the redwood... I'm not sure if the connection was intended, but for me there's a parallel to so-called "blood diamonds": diamonds mined in a war zone and sold to finance an insurgency, an invading army's war efforts, terrorism, or a warlord's activity. With the redwood it's similar, if "red" stands for blood.
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Anyone notice a little slip by Mark on the guitar at approximately 2:34 after he sings "fireman Marvin Seng".
Nope...
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Anyone notice a little slip by Mark on the guitar at approximately 2:34 after he sings "fireman Marvin Seng".
There is such a thing. Damn, I didn't notice until I read your post. And what is it in the end, a jamb of mastering/mixing?
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Anyone notice a little slip by Mark on the guitar at approximately 2:34 after he sings "fireman Marvin Seng".
There is such a thing. Damn, I didn't notice until I read your post. And what is it in the end, a jamb of mastering/mixing?
Haven't a clue, sorry. Recording glitch or mistake by Mark? I can't help but notice it either and it's annoying. I'm very surprised nobody else has noticed it.
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Anyone notice a little slip by Mark on the guitar at approximately 2:34 after he sings "fireman Marvin Seng".
There is such a thing. Damn, I didn't notice until I read your post. And what is it in the end, a jamb of mastering/mixing?
Haven't a clue, sorry. Recording glitch or mistake by Mark? I can't help but notice it either and it's annoying. I'm very surprised nobody else has noticed it.
Blimey it's the most miniscules of slips that until dmg said anything I didn't notice myself....
I still have a job to notice it when I keep playing this beautiful track - you have to be really concentrating at the certain point to really notice. Perhaps you notice it more when you're not doing a great deal?!
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Anyone notice a little slip by Mark on the guitar at approximately 2:34 after he sings "fireman Marvin Seng".
There is such a thing. Damn, I didn't notice until I read your post. And what is it in the end, a jamb of mastering/mixing?
Haven't a clue, sorry. Recording glitch or mistake by Mark? I can't help but notice it either and it's annoying. I'm very surprised nobody else has noticed it.
It is not that bad.
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Anyone notice a little slip by Mark on the guitar at approximately 2:34 after he sings "fireman Marvin Seng".
There is such a thing. Damn, I didn't notice until I read your post. And what is it in the end, a jamb of mastering/mixing?
Haven't a clue, sorry. Recording glitch or mistake by Mark? I can't help but notice it either and it's annoying. I'm very surprised nobody else has noticed it.
It is not that bad.
I agree....
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Anyone notice a little slip by Mark on the guitar at approximately 2:34 after he sings "fireman Marvin Seng".
There is such a thing. Damn, I didn't notice until I read your post. And what is it in the end, a jamb of mastering/mixing?
Haven't a clue, sorry. Recording glitch or mistake by Mark? I can't help but notice it either and it's annoying. I'm very surprised nobody else has noticed it.
It is not that bad.
But how can I stop hearing this crap now? I drank whiskey, it doesn't help.
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Anyone notice a little slip by Mark on the guitar at approximately 2:34 after he sings "fireman Marvin Seng".
There is such a thing. Damn, I didn't notice until I read your post. And what is it in the end, a jamb of mastering/mixing?
Haven't a clue, sorry. Recording glitch or mistake by Mark? I can't help but notice it either and it's annoying. I'm very surprised nobody else has noticed it.
Blimey it's the most miniscules of slips that until dmg said anything I didn't notice myself....
I still have a job to notice it when I keep playing this beautiful track - you have to be really concentrating at the certain point to really notice. Perhaps you notice it more when you're not doing a great deal?!
I have listened intently a few times and can't hear anything amiss.
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Anyone notice a little slip by Mark on the guitar at approximately 2:34 after he sings "fireman Marvin Seng".
There is such a thing. Damn, I didn't notice until I read your post. And what is it in the end, a jamb of mastering/mixing?
Haven't a clue, sorry. Recording glitch or mistake by Mark? I can't help but notice it either and it's annoying. I'm very surprised nobody else has noticed it.
Blimey it's the most miniscules of slips that until dmg said anything I didn't notice myself....
I still have a job to notice it when I keep playing this beautiful track - you have to be really concentrating at the certain point to really notice. Perhaps you notice it more when you're not doing a great deal?!
I have listened intently a few times and can't hear anything amiss.
The start of the bend is maybe a bit inaccurate. But nothing serious.
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It's just a phrasing thing, not a slip in my opinion. Remember, all mistakes are intentional.
They wouldn't let a greenie or slip get on the meticulously produced record.
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It's just a phrasing thing, not a slip in my opinion. Remember, all mistakes are intentional.
They wouldn't let a greenie or slip get on the meticulously produced record.
listening intently this time and I agree it's not a slip but the start of a 'Knopfler bend' into the leading notes...
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I really like the female vocals on this one. The intro is fantastic.
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I really like the female vocals on this one. The intro is fantastic.
Yes! Emma and Tamsin. An amazing introduction to a gangster story.
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I must admit that I'm not a big fan of female harmony singers, but these two Ladies really did a great job on the whole album.
What an impressive album. Everything seems to be right.
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I must admit that I'm not a big fan of female harmony singers, but these two Ladies really did a great job on the whole album.
What an impressive album. Everything seems to be right.
It’s true :)
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I really like the female vocals on this one. The intro is fantastic.
I don't really see the point. It's like they've been shoehorned into the album here and there as a favour or something! I don't totally dislike them but they don't add anything to me that a synth, strings or perhaps even some percussion sound wouldn't add.
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I must admit that I'm not a big fan of female harmony singers, but these two Ladies really did a great job on the whole album.
What an impressive album. Everything seems to be right.
I'm with you and think the female vocals really work and give a proper sense of suspense better than a synth or similar would have done...
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I really like the female vocals on this one. The intro is fantastic.
I don't really see the point. It's like they've been shoehorned into the album here and there as a favour or something! I don't totally dislike them but they don't add anything to me that a synth, strings or perhaps even some percussion sound wouldn't add.
I just have to say I strongly disagree. I think the human voice adds something very special, and the vocal arrangement on Tunnel 13 is spectacular. On Watch Me Gone, though, I hate it ;D
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My favorite song of Mark's where he's using a female backup singer is Back On The Dance Floor. Imelda May adds that incredible element of sensuality. Sexiness even. So hot.
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I really can't believe that he include the lines telling the wood of his guitar comes from Tunnel 13, LOL
Great song overall but agree, totally cringe line. Like truffling from Get Lucky!
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I really can't believe that he include the lines telling the wood of his guitar comes from Tunnel 13, LOL
Great song overall but agree, totally cringe line. Like truffling from Get Lucky!
That bit throws me off every time I listen to this song. My mind goes: did he really sing what I think I just heard?
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It's art. He is breaking the fourth wall. ;)
LE
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I’m hearing enormous parallels with Gordon Lightfoot’s Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald here. It’s very similar writing and story telling, very similar musical composition. All good!
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I’m hearing enormous parallels with Gordon Lightfoot’s Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald here. It’s very similar writing and story telling, very similar musical composition. All good!
I had exactly the same feeling the first time I heard it :)!
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Fourth minute and 17 seconds. Is that Guy Fletcher and the keyboards? Very cool effect, too bad it's only once.
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I don’t mind the guitar wood line. I’m assuming he heard the story of Tunnel 13 when the guitar was acquired and that was the inspiration, so fitting that it’s mentioned there in the song
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I don’t mind the guitar wood line. I’m assuming he heard the story of Tunnel 13 when the guitar was acquired and that was the inspiration, so fitting that it’s mentioned there in the song
The connection between the Virgin Rosewood Timbers harvested in Oregan very near Tunnel13 used to make MKs guitars and in fact those very same timbers that would have witnessed the events of 11th October 1923 is exactly what MK spoke about at the album promo in London. I like the line myself having heard MK speak very deeply about it...
From the Boswell MK page:
The back and sides are beautiful old-growth Honduran mahogany, while the top is the Tunnel redwood that used to line the train tunnels high in the Siskiyou Mountains
Boswell guitar story page:
With all the excitement surrounding Tunnel 13 and 14, and all the incredible guitar wood they both had already yielded, Bill thought there might be a chance that these abandoned tunnels may be the next source for redwood guitar tops. I drove down and picked up the first of what would end up being many huge redwood timbers, to see what we had.
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I really can't believe that he include the lines telling the wood of his guitar comes from Tunnel 13, LOL
Great song overall but agree, totally cringe line. Like truffling from Get Lucky!
Don't understand why it's a cringe line, the redwood used to 'Top' MKs Boswell guitars is in fact from around Tunnel 13....
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I really can't believe that he include the lines telling the wood of his guitar comes from Tunnel 13, LOL
Great song overall but agree, totally cringe line. Like truffling from Get Lucky!
Don't understand why it's a cringe line, the redwood used to 'Top' MKs Boswell guitars is in fact from around Tunnel 13....
Because up until then, the song is a story, sung by a storyteller. Then with one line, MK stops being any storyteller, as in the folk tradition, and becomes himself. Very jarring.
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I really can't believe that he include the lines telling the wood of his guitar comes from Tunnel 13, LOL
Great song overall but agree, totally cringe line. Like truffling from Get Lucky!
Don't understand why it's a cringe line, the redwood used to 'Top' MKs Boswell guitars is in fact from around Tunnel 13....
Because up until then, the song is a story, sung by a storyteller. Then with one line, MK stops being any storyteller, as in the folk tradition, and becomes himself. Very jarring.
That's your interpretation and of course fine but I take it personally that it is in fact MK that is the storyteller here thus the last few lines....
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Yes, everything I post here is my interpretation. :)
There’s nothing personal to MK until the last line, that’s why it sticks out.
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Yes, everything I post here is my interpretation. :)
There’s nothing personal to MK until the last line, that’s why it sticks out.
Didn't state anything was personal to MK until the last line! MK is telling you the tale of tunnel13 and then BOOM he hits you with the last few lines and how the wood used for his guitar relates to the tale.... :wave
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This amazing forum proves to me just how imaginative & innovative a group of MK's most ardent fans have become.
His writing is so thought provokng & layered that it works on the interpretations of us all very differently.
SL1
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This amazing forum proves to me just how imaginative & innovative a group of MK's most ardent fans have become.
His writing is so thought provokng & layered that it works on the interpretations of us all very differently.
SL1
It's true.
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Yes, everything I post here is my interpretation. :)
There’s nothing personal to MK until the last line, that’s why it sticks out.
He certainly made us talk about it, didn't he.
Tunnel 13 is a story with a twist! :)
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Like this one a lot. Basically a reworking of Terminal of Tribute To.
Yes I also notice the elements of Terminal of Tribute To plus Junkie Doll even more!
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I'm very curious as to why Mark reached back to this story from 1923. What made him write a song about it.
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:hmm
I guess you watched today's Video where he talked about it with Paul Sexton? Sexton mentioned that Mark was an excellent researcher . Mark remembered that he got the beautiful guitars from that guitar building guy and was aware that they were made with that wonderful redwood from the area the guy was working and living at. And that the wood is protected today but was used to stabilize the Tunnels back then. And that a brutal, bloody, horrendous crime killed four innocent people on one side and that he has such a beautiful guitar built from the same wood to play this song to tell the tale on and that it seems to him as an ironic fact. It's literally all there. What else do you need? :hmm
:think
LE
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All right. I saw the movie but didn't watch the entire interview. Thanks.
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It's very helpful. Mark seldomly talks so much about his inspiration. Apart from Rüdiger maybe.
Which he also mentions in this Video. I must confess that it was only today that I understood the connection with the Lennon murder. It was not only that he met R. during that time and that was it. He mentions that Rüdiger could have had a weapon in his briefcase as well. So it was not just the fact that R. appeared "strange and ridiculous" but MK also must have felt anxious and feared another attack, after Lennon was asked for an autograph by Chapman. I knew the facts but never connected them.
LE
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I finally have some time. I start watching. Thank you LE:)
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It's very helpful. Mark seldomly talks so much about his inspiration. Apart from Rüdiger maybe.
Which he also mentions in this Video. I must confess that it was only today that I understood the connection with the Lennon murder. It was not only that he met R. during that time and that was it. He mentions that Rüdiger could have had a weapon in his briefcase as well. So it was not just the fact that R. appeared "strange" but MK also must have felt anxious and feared another attack.
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He explained at some show in the 90s (or was it in Berlin 2007?) that Rüdiger was a really creepy person, but this is the first time a gun is mentioned. I have often wondered what it must have been like to have been living in Greenwich Village in the late 70s and early eighties. That must have been a really dangerous place!
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The guitars from Boswell [ MK The 0-14MK/TR-LTD.]
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Tunnel 13 is the place in the song
Where the beautiful redwood for my guitar came from
BOSWELL MK Tunnel 13 page:- https://boswellguitars.com/mark-knopfler-model
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Beautiful photos! Thank you!
It's amazing how small these guitars are, but they sound wonderful all the same.
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For me, this is not a controversial ending, but the most surprising of all MK songs ;)
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Interview with Steve Earle including extended discussion Tunnel 13.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmwWrJ15TjU
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Interview with Steve Earle including extended discussion Tunnel 13.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmwWrJ15TjU
thank you so much! :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Interview with Steve Earle including extended discussion Tunnel 13.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmwWrJ15TjU
Cheers Dusty. This track has remained a strong favourite of mine but another one that I'm Attempting making a YT video of has been keeping me awake all week! 😔 2:15 am here!
Just a sad old get a lifer at heart!🤭
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Interview with Steve Earle including extended discussion Tunnel 13.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmwWrJ15TjU
"How are you, sir?" Do they all say that in Texas?
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Interview with Steve Earle including extended discussion Tunnel 13.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmwWrJ15TjU
I’ve been to Texas and I don’t remember anyone saying that. But Steve hasn’t lived in Texas for a long time.
"How are you, sir?" Do they all say that in Texas?
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AMIT TV TUNNEL 13 video pre-release for AMIT forum ONLY:- https://www.youtube.com/embed/UUHwqW_3zQI?si=UriTzyjQqSqHTaAv
Goes live at 12:00 Noon GMT.
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https://youtu.be/3fQM_r_MzEk
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Interview with Steve Earle including extended discussion Tunnel 13.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmwWrJ15TjU
Yes in fact we do
I’ve been to Texas and I don’t remember anyone saying that. But Steve hasn’t lived in Texas for a long time.
"How are you, sir?" Do they all say that in Texas?
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This story happened exactly 101 years ago.