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Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: WaterofLove on June 23, 2016, 10:29:57 PM

Title: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: WaterofLove on June 23, 2016, 10:29:57 PM
I checked out his FB-profile and under a picture with him and "Refugees welcome to Britain" there is quite an interesting debate. DK strikes me as immature and with poor knowledge of economics and cultural differences. He is also rude against people who has a different opinion than him.

An example:

Neil Mitchell : Let them all in Dave and let's have a little happy clappy sing along. You don't live in the real world mate
David Knopfler: Neil Mitchell who is this "them" that make you feel so affronted and threatened?
Neil Mitchell Numbers David it's a matter of numbers not who they are
David Knopfler Neil Mitchell it's a matter of "protecting national identity" for you then? The same old nazi bollocks wrapped up in a less disreputable flag but still the same BS. Shame

....

Neil Mitchell I'll shake hands and agree to disagree
David Knopfler Neil Mitchell Watch it before you laugh so loudly... it's you we're laughing at

Well... After his begging for money to record in a super-studio and now this disrespect to people who disagree I have lost a lot of respect for him. I hope MK isn't this naive and unfriendly towards others
Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: Banjo99uk on June 23, 2016, 10:37:00 PM
He has had some proper scraps on facebook and can get quite nasty at times when someone opposes his opinion. I wouldnt want to get into a war of words with him as he'd wipe the floor with me.
Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: WaterofLove on June 23, 2016, 10:45:27 PM
He has had some proper scraps on facebook and can get quite nasty at times when someone opposes his opinion. I wouldnt want to get into a war of words with him as he'd wipe the floor with me.

He lacks arguments and is using cheap name-calling, for example when accusing people of being nazis. His plattitudes are nothing to fear. Would love to see Nigel Farage wipe the floor with him :-) But I suspect that DK is more an internet warrior and a virtue signaler than anything else
Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 23, 2016, 11:26:50 PM
Is this thread really necessary? It's a Mark Knopfler forum, not David, and really there are plenty of other online forums to discuss this kind of stuff if you want to...

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Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: holaknopfler on June 24, 2016, 11:13:00 AM
Maybe it's better to skip the discussion here since it's a MK forum, not political. Just my two cents
Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: dmg on June 24, 2016, 02:14:24 PM
Upcoming thread:

Religion:  which one is best?
Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: quizzaciously on June 24, 2016, 04:57:45 PM
LOL, same old AMIT. It's just another [crucial] topic, people talk about it every second. Why not here? I really can't understand.
Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: holaknopfler on June 24, 2016, 05:43:43 PM
LOL, same old AMIT. It's just another [crucial] topic, people talk about it every second. Why not here? I really can't understand.

Since I come here for talk related to Mark Knopfler not politics whatsoever. If I want to read about politics I go somewhere else. It's not the place for it. If you want to talk about politics, don't do it on AMIT IMHO
Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: WaterofLove on June 24, 2016, 08:57:44 PM
LOL, same old AMIT. It's just another [crucial] topic, people talk about it every second. Why not here? I really can't understand.

Since I come here for talk related to Mark Knopfler not politics whatsoever. If I want to read about politics I go somewhere else. It's not the place for it. If you want to talk about politics, don't do it on AMIT IMHO

It has been several threads about DK here. I did not post this thread for DK's political views. It was because of his way of attacking people for not sharing his views. So it is about personality and behavior, let's say psychology, rather than politics.
Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: holaknopfler on June 24, 2016, 09:17:29 PM
LOL, same old AMIT. It's just another [crucial] topic, people talk about it every second. Why not here? I really can't understand.

Since I come here for talk related to Mark Knopfler not politics whatsoever. If I want to read about politics I go somewhere else. It's not the place for it. If you want to talk about politics, don't do it on AMIT IMHO

It has been several threads about DK here. I did not post this thread for DK's political views. It was because of his way of attacking people for not sharing his views. So it is about personality and behavior, let's say psychology, rather than politics.

I'd say the line between these two is very thin, but hey, who am I.. I still don't see why we should discuss these topics in this forum. Things always go off-topic and then we end up discussing if it's a good thing or not if GB stays in the EU etc etc etc etc.
Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: vgonis on June 29, 2016, 08:18:12 PM
I am not going to discuss about DK, but I think that it is valid for members to start a thread about such topics(I mean DK and politics), as long as the title shows clearly what the tread is about. After all we are here for MK, but this is only an aspect of our life. And I would be very interested to know and discuss civilized with people I know for so many years, because I might be able to understand better a subject that eludes me.  Of course, those not interested or disagreeing with the topic, might as well refrain from reading (that is the need of a descriptive title) and most importantly refrain from replying with the same arguments about the validity of these discussions. Which also makes my reply invalid... Anyway, it was the  amount of replies that made me look here. If there were no replies I would have skipped.
Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: quizzaciously on June 29, 2016, 11:23:45 PM
I am not going to discuss about DK, but I think that it is valid for members to start a thread about such topics(I mean DK and politics), as long as the title shows clearly what the tread is about. After all we are here for MK, but this is only an aspect of our life. And I would be very interested to know and discuss civilized with people I know for so many years, because I might be able to understand better a subject that eludes me.  Of course, those not interested or disagreeing with the topic, might as well refrain from reading (that is the need of a descriptive title) and most importantly refrain from replying with the same arguments about the validity of these discussions. Which also makes my reply invalid... Anyway, it was the  amount of replies that made me look here. If there were no replies I would have skipped.

Nice words of wisdom here indeed, thanks Vgonis.

I like David, and I love when regular people are into politics, this basically means that they can't comprehend some of the BS (well, politicians mostly produce BS at industrial rates) being imposed on them, they have an opinion. DK certainly have a strong opinion and it's cool.
Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: IrisRose on June 30, 2016, 09:46:24 PM
It's fine to have a discussion here at AMIT about DK .  We could move it to the General Threads section, if people object to it being here.   
Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: ingridswing on July 01, 2016, 11:57:05 AM
Agree with IrisRose, it should be in the general thread. It is somehow MK related from old DS times, so it's not a general political discussion.
But a better place would be the general thread, because it's indeed not MK
Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: Pottel on July 01, 2016, 10:05:08 PM
LOL, same old AMIT. It's just another [crucial] topic, people talk about it every second. Why not here? I really can't understand.
i have no problem with the topic, but yes, the location is wrong. will move it,...later.
can i assume wateroflove is of the [nazi] brexit camp? ;-))))))
Since I come here for talk related to Mark Knopfler not politics whatsoever. If I want to read about politics I go somewhere else. It's not the place for it. If you want to talk about politics, don't do it on AMIT IMHO

It has been several threads about DK here. I did not post this thread for DK's political views. It was because of his way of attacking people for not sharing his views. So it is about personality and behavior, let's say psychology, rather than politics.

Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: Banjo99uk on July 01, 2016, 11:26:44 PM
couldnt care less about his politics, and I'd never discuss them here. I am a FB friend of his as I'm sure loads here are as well. The funniest fight I saw ( and he has loads ) was with Craig Fairbrass from Right Said Fred. They disagreed so much that Fairbrass called him a c**t and left. 2 former popstars famous because of their brothers fighting was amusing.
Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: WaterofLove on July 02, 2016, 12:44:44 PM
LOL, same old AMIT. It's just another [crucial] topic, people talk about it every second. Why not here? I really can't understand.
i have no problem with the topic, but yes, the location is wrong. will move it,...later.
can i assume wateroflove is of the [nazi] brexit camp? ;-))))))
Since I come here for talk related to Mark Knopfler not politics whatsoever. If I want to read about politics I go somewhere else. It's not the place for it. If you want to talk about politics, don't do it on AMIT IMHO

It has been several threads about DK here. I did not post this thread for DK's political views. It was because of his way of attacking people for not sharing his views. So it is about personality and behavior, let's say psychology, rather than politics.


I am pro Brexit so I guess nazi is the right word...  ::) I think that degrading 52 % of the voters this way says more about those leftists claiming to be pro democracy and clearly aren't. Merkel invited all of Africa and the entire Middle East and look what is happening in Germany. Crime rates are sky rocketing and women are being attacked in every festival. UK takes back control :thumbsup
Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 02, 2016, 06:15:01 PM
LOL, same old AMIT. It's just another [crucial] topic, people talk about it every second. Why not here? I really can't understand.
i have no problem with the topic, but yes, the location is wrong. will move it,...later.
can i assume wateroflove is of the [nazi] brexit camp? ;-))))))
Since I come here for talk related to Mark Knopfler not politics whatsoever. If I want to read about politics I go somewhere else. It's not the place for it. If you want to talk about politics, don't do it on AMIT IMHO

It has been several threads about DK here. I did not post this thread for DK's political views. It was because of his way of attacking people for not sharing his views. So it is about personality and behavior, let's say psychology, rather than politics.


I am pro Brexit so I guess nazi is the right word...  ::) I think that degrading 52 % of the voters this way says more about those leftists claiming to be pro democracy and clearly aren't. Merkel invited all of Africa and the entire Middle East and look what is happening in Germany. Crime rates are sky rocketing and women are being attacked in every festival. UK takes back control :thumbsup
What's this got to do with David Knopfler?

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Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: the visitor on July 02, 2016, 10:23:17 PM
To me this thread never had anything to do with David Knopfler, it was just a route in to introduce a political topic to this forum. Leave politrix from this place. There is a lot I would like to say on that topic but here is not the place.
Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: ds1984 on July 03, 2016, 11:46:00 AM
I am pro Brexit so I guess nazi is the right word...  ::) I think that degrading 52 % of the voters this way says more about those leftists claiming to be pro democracy and clearly aren't. Merkel invited all of Africa and the entire Middle East and look what is happening in Germany. Crime rates are sky rocketing and women are being attacked in every festival. UK takes back control :thumbsup

The perfect example of message I don't like to see posted here.

Otherwise this forum will for sure turn very bad and quite fast. (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-fighting-smileys-109.gif)
Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: superval99 on July 03, 2016, 11:57:59 AM
I am pro Brexit so I guess nazi is the right word...  ::) I think that degrading 52 % of the voters this way says more about those leftists claiming to be pro democracy and clearly aren't. Merkel invited all of Africa and the entire Middle East and look what is happening in Germany. Crime rates are sky rocketing and women are being attacked in every festival. UK takes back control :thumbsup

The perfect example of message I don't like to see posted here.

Otherwise this forum will for sure turn very bad and quite fast. (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-fighting-smileys-109.gif)

I agree.  Personally, I feel that this thread should be removed entirely.  Even if it was transferred to General Discussion, things could go downhill very fast!
Title: Re: David Knopfler's way of answering political "enemies" on FB
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 03, 2016, 04:35:55 PM
Agreed, the original claim that it was about David Knopfler has been proved to be false, I will take the step of closing it while the moderators have a discussion. In the meantime there are plenty of other locations on the interweb to discuss Brexit. :)

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