A Mark In Time
General Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: herlock on June 11, 2015, 02:14:03 PM
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I'm going to see Sir Paul tonight in Stade de France ! Anybody in ? :)
I do not follow Paul as closely as Mark... I just had a quick look at the setlist from his previous show in Marseilles and got a shock. Do you know how many songs he plays ?? Make a guess. 15 ? 20 ? 30 ? No: 41 songs !!!!!! I hope I can catch the last train back home ! :)
See: http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/paul-mccartney/2015/stade-velodrome-marseille-france-3c9f1a3.html
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As long as he doesn't cover Marbletown, you'll catch the train ;)
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Have a nice time and let us know how you get on! :thumbsup
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Thanks ! I guess I won't be able to catch a train, we are one hour late ! And 41 songs to go..
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As you probably get it once the show ended, I wish you have got a great concert.
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Don't know how long the show is but I do know that a lot of Beatle songs are only 3-4 minutes. If you don't extend it with solo's then during Marbletown Paul can do 3 of them, same with TR. Then it goes fast with number of songs
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Almost missed the train but ok now, with 1 minute margin: Sir Paul came 1h10 late and stayed on stage for almost 3 hours !! I am amazed with this 72-year old man, looking as if he was 40, and singing and playing as if he was 30, and teasing the crowd as if he was a teenager. He is immortal, just like the Beatles music, so timeless than even youngsters sing Michele, Let it Be, Yesterday or Hey Jude ! Beatles is the common taste I have with my mother :)
Serious competition for Mark, albeit in a very different style. Ingrid is perfectly right, all the songs are timed to last exactly 4 minutes, so you can fit loads of them. 41. Paul followed exactly the same setlist as in Marseille with only one exception. It was great to have this setlist on my iPhone to help me not getting confused with all these Beatles/Wings/solo songs ! :)
Paul litterally set fire to the sated de a France (fireworks and smoke in Love an let die). He sings, plays guitar, piano, the fool, runs, joke in french, in english, invites a girl on stage for a hug, put back his shirts in his pants, at times you feel it's a sand up comedy :) but it's real, ambitious, megalomaniac even, show, with big screens, projections of photos and animations, lights all over the place,looking like a Roger Waters or Pink Floyd show !
Paul blew me away, he never ages, he looks and play the same than 18 years ago on the Montserrat concert. A real genius... Acting like a 12-year old :)
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Glad you liked it, he is a funny lad , and his two gigs in the ziggodome 7&8 June , where well received in review land , but for sure by his fans mostly because he plays the song the fans want , bringing back the Beatles feeling.
In Amsterdam he had no problem with a marriage proposal on stage :
its in dutch , but scroll down for a little video of that:
http://www.nu.nl/muziek/4064117/concertrecensie-paul-mccartney-staat-drie-uur-podium-ziggo-dome.html
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There are simply no moaning, criticism or displeasure possible when it comes to Paul McCartney's show.
I remember attending his shows two times (both in Russia, which is too far for Mark today), and I loved every second of it including 1+ hour delay.
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"I have always loved playing in Russia and have great affection for the country and the people," he said in the post. "I hope the current climate will change soon."
MK (2013)
is it too far , or is the climate not changed?
i really wonder.
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"I have always loved playing in Russia and have great affection for the country and the people," he said in the post. "I hope the current climate will change soon."
MK (2013)
is it too far , or is the climate not changed?
i really wonder.
I just pointed out that Paul plays music, wherever country he would go: Japan, Brasil, Argentina, Russia, UK, USA. Climate has nothing to do with it.
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Also, cool thing about Macca's shows is that you can easily spot some stars right in the fan zone, and you can also stand in the line with some actors, musicians or anchors, and people could sing 'Hey Jude' while standing in the rain outside of the venue, and be happy after hour and a half delay.
To me, the only guy who can compete with Macca in terms of fans engagement is Bruce Springsteen.
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Pat & myself
Were at the 7th June show at the Ziggo Dome
Paul was GREAT to watch the night after MK. He was 40 mins late
It's not fun rushing to get there and then having to wait.
Mark starts his shows on time.
Glad you have fun with Paul, Pat and I did.
But we follow the MK shows.
Hamburg tomorrow and then back to Cannada on Friday
Brian
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To start his show an hour late is unprofessional and shows a disrespect to his fans IMO, unless there are extreme circumstances. I would be really annoyed by that.
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To start his show an hour late is unprofessional and shows a disrespect to his fans IMO, unless there are extreme circumstances. I would be really annoyed by that.
I was really annoyed by that for 1 hour and 10 minutes; then I was blown away for 2 hours 47 minutes, and completey forgot about how annoyed I was. That's the magic of Sir Paul :)
This being said, yes, being so late is not considerate, especially when people have to travel back at night !
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To start his show an hour late is unprofessional and shows a disrespect to his fans IMO, unless there are extreme circumstances. I would be really annoyed by that.
LOL unprofessional? Who are you are talking about, some local garage band?
The trouble with his shows, is that venue organisers open the doors too late and they often has this strange system of segmented fan zone, and all the fans in fan zone keeps going very slow due to this organisation (often with bangles), and also there's a huge crowd in the wardrobe if it's not a hot summer.
The trouble is, is that by the time concert should start, every time only half of the venue being crowded with people. You can think that Paul just don't go on stage with all the venue fullfilled with people, but he isn't. So Paul and his professionalism have nothing to do with this, it's a venue's fault.
Basically, the lower level of the venue, the bigger delay of the show people will get. It's just too many people.
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To start his show an hour late is unprofessional and shows a disrespect to his fans IMO, unless there are extreme circumstances. I would be really annoyed by that.
LOL unprofessional? Who are you are talking about, some local garage band?
The trouble with his shows, is that venue organisers open the doors too late and they often has this strange system of segmented fan zone, and all the fans in fan zone keeps going very slow due to this organisation (often with bangles), and also there's a huge crowd in the wardrobe if it's not a hot summer.
The trouble is, is that by the time concert should start, every time only half of the venue being crowded with people. You can think that Paul just don't go on stage with all the venue fullfilled with people, but he isn't. So Paul and his professionalism have nothing to do with this, it's a venue's fault.
Basically, the lower level of the venue, the bigger delay of the show people will get. It's just too many people.
IIf something like this would happen in MKs concert, there would be many to blame management instead of the venue :)
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To start his show an hour late is unprofessional and shows a disrespect to his fans IMO, unless there are extreme circumstances. I would be really annoyed by that.
LOL unprofessional? Who are you are talking about, some local garage band?
The trouble with his shows, is that venue organisers open the doors too late and they often has this strange system of segmented fan zone, and all the fans in fan zone keeps going very slow due to this organisation (often with bangles), and also there's a huge crowd in the wardrobe if it's not a hot summer.
The trouble is, is that by the time concert should start, every time only half of the venue being crowded with people. You can think that Paul just don't go on stage with all the venue fullfilled with people, but he isn't. So Paul and his professionalism have nothing to do with this, it's a venue's fault.
Basically, the lower level of the venue, the bigger delay of the show people will get. It's just too many people.
Mark starts his concerts more or less on time. If it is the case that they can't manage to make the correct time, then this should be taken into account and a later time announced beforehand. Similar to Scotrail timetables! ;)
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Mark starts his concerts more or less on time. If it is the case that they can't manage to make the correct time, then this should be taken into account and a later time announced beforehand. Similar to Scotrail timetables! ;)
I know also that clocks on Edinburgh's railway station fast about 5 minutes for people's benefit. Very cool indeed!
I don't know if it's even possible to set the doors opening time earlier, it's always one hour before the show.
I think two hours before the show would be OK, but where on Earth doors would open so early? I don't know.
Despite this huge gap before start, in the end you will tear up your throat singing and beat off your hands clapping.
Anybody who decide wether to go to PM concert or wait another year or two, go without any doubts, it's worth anything.
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You should be advised that PMC do sound-check for 1h/1h30*. And if you are rich enough, you can buy a something like 300/400 € face value package that include attendance to it. So due to this long sound-check it is impossible for early gate opening.
* : that means that Paul play may play for more than 4 h on some day. And his longest sound-check are close to equal MK shorter concerts :think
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You should be advised that PMC do sound-check for 1h/1h30*. And if you are rich enough, you can buy a something like 300/400 € face value package that include attendance to it. So due to this long sound-check it is impossible for early gate opening.
* : tha
Money racket. I wouldn't entertain that.
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There are simply no moaning, criticism or displeasure possible when it comes to Paul McCartney's show.
I remember attending his shows two times (both in Russia, which is too far for Mark today), and I loved every second of it including 1+ hour delay.
"I have always loved playing in Russia and have great affection for the country and the people," he said in the post. "I hope the current climate will change soon."
MK (2013)
is it too far , or is the climate not changed?
i really wonder.
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I just pointed out that Paul plays music, wherever country he would go: Japan, Brasil, Argentina, Russia, UK, USA. Climate has nothing to do with it.
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so Russia is too far for Mark this year?
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As Guy said, there are no any special routing on Tracker Tour except neglecting Russia. So it's so far away for Mark this year, yes :)
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In O2 London the concert started 1 hour or so later, I think just because the venue wasn't full in time - it became full, but much later for some reason.
And right, when Paul gets on stage, you forget about everything. Like you never have to go home. His concerts bring the atmosphere of Beatles shows, and let us recall who Paul McCartney is at same time. A super modern singer and a classic songwriter with a "trademark" composer's style; and yes, one of those guys who made The Beatles that important for us. Does he play songs people want to hear? No. Because three hours is too short time for that. But he can pick songs that make you cry and laugh, and see all your life before you - and every tour, sometimes even every concert's encore those are different songs. In O2 for me it was Another Girl - I don't know why! But I still cannot forget it.
I think there's nothing to compare to Mark - Paul has absolutely different approach to everything he does. Quality is the word I use to describe Paul concerts.
In terms of everything.
I'm glad in Paris he was as great as always.
As for Russia, he even told a little about his first visit to Moscow in his hometown, London, in a very positive way. We love him, and he knows and appreciates that. While he knows that some of us eat meat and some voted for Putin, he still allows us to have our own opinion, live in our country and love his music - and he will return to play for us whatever happens, because he's Paul, he's the musician, and he's the legend. God bless you, big man.
PS Actually, no words needed to describe Paul, as he's known to be dead back in sixties. lol
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So it's so far away for Mark this year, yes :)
Yes true foma, I agree. Also these venues:-
2001
Tue 27-Mar-01 Mexico City 2001 1st night National Auditorium Mexico
Wed 28-Mar-01 Mexico City 2001 2nd night National Auditorium Mexico
Sat 31-Mar-01 Buenos Aires 2001 1st night Luna Park Argentina
Sun 1-Apr-01 Buenos Aires 2001 2nd night Luna Park Argentina
Mon 2-Apr-01 Montevideo 2001 Teatro de Verano Uruguay
Wed 4-Apr-01 Porto Alegre Gigantinho Brazil
Thu 5-Apr-01 Rio de Janeiro ATL Hall Brazil
Fri 6-Apr-01 Sao Paulo 2001 1st night Creditcard Hall Brazil
Sat 7-Apr-01 Sao Paulo 2001 2nd night Creditcard Hall Brazil
Sun 8-Apr-01 Sao Paulo 2001 3rd night Creditcard Hall Brazil
2005
Mon 28-Feb-05 Johannesburg 05 1st night Carnival City South Africa
Tue 1-Mar-05 Johannesburg 05 2nd night Carnival City South Africa
Thu 3-Mar-05 Dubai 05 Media City U.A.E.
Sat 5-Mar-05 Mumbai 05 Bandra Kurla Complex India
Mon 7-Mar-05 Bangalore 05 Palace Grounds India
Thu 10-Mar-05 Perth 05 Burswood Dome Australia
Sat 12-Mar-05 Melbourne 05 Rod Laver Arenaia Australia
Sun 13-Mar-05 Adelaide 05 Entertainment Centre Australia
Tue 15-Mar-05 Sydney 05 1st night Enmore Theatre Australia
Wed 16-Mar-05 Sydney 05 2nd night Entertainment Centre Australia
Thu 17-Mar-05 Brisbane 05 Entertainment Centre Australia
Sat 19-Mar-05 New Plymouth 05 Bowl of Brooklands New Zeland
Mon 21-Mar-05 Christchurch 05 Westpac Centre New Zeland
Never Beijing National Stadium China
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I can understand you, Paul McCartney never toured Australia from 1993, but we talk whole different things here.
Never tour or tour once is fine, but deliberate neglecting with all same league stars touring in our country is not fine.
Imagine Mark cancelling German tour (not offend anyone), or neglecting Spanish shows. Or Italian. Or any other 'good' country.
I talk about it infamously on amit for months, but if you didn't experienced ignoring of your country (?not touring), you can't understand me.
I also would like to mention that I'm not the man who started this topic again, I just defend myself :lol
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a collegue of mine, the one who the article below, was at the Paris gig and told me that the show started at time, without late
so who's right, who's wrong ? ???
http://culturebox.francetvinfo.fr/musique/pop/mccartney-au-stade-de-france-la-magie-beatles-toujours-vivante-221701 (http://culturebox.francetvinfo.fr/musique/pop/mccartney-au-stade-de-france-la-magie-beatles-toujours-vivante-221701)
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Quite simple: on my ticket, and on the the reservations web pages I have been though, it was written 20.00.
The show started at 21.10 exactly, according to my iPhone which I believe is synchronized with atomic clocks.
Is there a debate ?
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Quite simple: on my ticket, and on the the reservations web pages I have been though, it was written 20.00.
The show started at 21.10 exactly, according to my iPhone which I believe is synchronized with atomic clocks.
Is there a debate ?
sorry to insist but I asked him again and he said there was a support act : a keyboard player playing along with beatles tunes about 1 hour from 20h to 21h, so indeed the ticket said 20:00, but according to him it was including this support act, and apparently many people in the crowd didn't even realize there was this support act. I asked him if he was sure it was really a support act, and not a keyboard tech testing sounds, but he said of course not, it couldn't have been during 1 hour...
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Quite simple: on my ticket, and on the the reservations web pages I have been though, it was written 20.00.
The show started at 21.10 exactly, according to my iPhone which I believe is synchronized with atomic clocks.
Is there a debate ?
sorry to insist but I asked him again and he said there was a support act : a keyboard player playing along with beatles tunes about 1 hour from 20h to 21h, so indeed the ticket said 20:00, but according to him it was including this support act, and apparently many people in the crowd didn't even realize there was this support act. I asked him if he was sure it was really a support act, and not a keyboard tech testing sounds, but he said of course not, it couldn't have been during 1 hour...
Ok, I was far away from the stage, but I can tell you this: if this was a support act, that was not a lively one ! it really felt like radio to make you patient ! no introduction, no applause, no nothing ! I confirm that nobody seemed to notice ! in comparison, Ruth Moody is Pete Townshend ! :)
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Haha Herlock. Nothing announced, no applause, no-one noticing something was going on on stage. Sounds like not really a supportact.
As far as I know is the meaning of a supportact that the mainartist wants to show you music you should pay attention to. Seems not the case here ;-)
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ah ah very strange indeed
here are some precisions form my colleague :
An artist played at least 30 mn on a keyboard and a computer on the right half of the stage. He played on some Beatles songs, adding sounds and noises… a kind of DJ-electro performance. It did not appear as a first part because there was no light and no announcement. But It actually was it. Even if most of the people did not even noticed, and even if it wasn't mentionned on the ticket. Someone in the crowd said "come, there is a first part" maybe because he heard of this, or because he saw other gigs of the same tour before ?
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Strange, no lights as well. Wasn't it just a roadie setting up some stuff for the performance, I am really starting to think it's like that.
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Strange, no lights as well. Wasn't it just a roadie setting up some stuff for the performance, I am really starting to think it's like that.
at first I thought so, but 30min-1hour is a bit long for just testing
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There was the same in 2004 but there was also a theatrical troup on the stage.
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Ok, I was far away from the stage, but I can tell you this: if this was a support act, that was not a lively one ! it really felt like radio to make you patient ! no introduction, no applause, no nothing ! I confirm that nobody seemed to notice !
I just realized that we had same in London. I thought it was just a broadcast.
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I can understand you, Paul McCartney never toured Australia from 1993, but we talk whole different things here.
Never tour or tour once is fine, but deliberate neglecting with all same league stars touring in our country is not fine.
Cancelling the almost sold out gig for "political reasons (read: because I want to)" is just demonstration one doesn't care about others. No responsibility for one's fans, finally. This is the point.