A Mark In Time

Previous Tours => 2013 Privateering World Tour => Topic started by: rosco on August 06, 2013, 10:57:19 PM

Title: Concert Stats
Post by: rosco on August 06, 2013, 10:57:19 PM
Here is a few boxscore results for the UK leg of the tour-

RAH  -Gross $1,689,470 - Crowd 26,710

LG arena B/Ham-   $418,230- Crowd 6,872(capacity 7200)

Glasgow Secc  $365,233- Crowd 5,943(6398)

Newcastle Arena  $353,880- Crowd 5,869(6225)

Liverpool Arena  $316,186- Crowd 5,285(6000)

Brighton  $228,691-  Crowd 3,809(3,809)

Bournemouth  $216,952-Crowd 3,580(3580)

Cardiff  $207,581- Crowd 3.531(3,800)

Pretty good figures

Clapton played the RAH in May as well with what looks like a couple of nights more than MK; his figures were- Gross $3,596,330 -Crowd 33,374 (33,374 ) His ticket prices were $144 and $53 compared to MK's $80 and $52 . He also played a gig In Belfast to a crowd of 4,200 out of a capacity of 6,000....1,800 below capacity!!
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: Fletch on August 06, 2013, 11:01:22 PM
Deduct the catering costs from that gross, I bet Marks empire runs at a loss!
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: rosco on August 06, 2013, 11:04:15 PM
Deduct the catering costs from that gross, I bet Marks empire runs at a loss!
:lol
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: Knopflerfan on August 07, 2013, 09:55:45 AM
Clapton played the RAH in May as well with what looks like a couple of nights more than MK; his figures were- Gross $3,596,330 -Crowd 33,374 (33,374 ) His ticket prices were $144 and $53 compared to MK's $80 and $52 . He also played a gig In Belfast to a crowd of 4,200 out of a capacity of 6,000....1,800 below capacity!!

Eric who??!!!!!!
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: ds1984 on August 07, 2013, 10:16:15 AM
Deduct the catering costs from that gross, I bet Marks empire runs at a loss!

Guy's book huge sale they will make that tour financially back afloat soon.

Thank rosco for the figures.
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: tunnel85 on August 07, 2013, 10:27:43 AM
Clapton played the RAH in May as well with what looks like a couple of nights more than MK; his figures were- Gross $3,596,330 -Crowd 33,374 (33,374 ) His ticket prices were $144 and $53 compared to MK's $80 and $52 . He also played a gig In Belfast to a crowd of 4,200 out of a capacity of 6,000....1,800 below capacity!!

Eric who??!!!!!!
+1
I thought he had retired.
Probably thinks he is too good to tour in our countries  :thumbsdown


Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: ds1984 on August 07, 2013, 10:41:50 AM
Clapton played the RAH in May as well with what looks like a couple of nights more than MK; his figures were- Gross $3,596,330 -Crowd 33,374 (33,374 ) His ticket prices were $144 and $53 compared to MK's $80 and $52 . He also played a gig In Belfast to a crowd of 4,200 out of a capacity of 6,000....1,800 below capacity!!

Eric who??!!!!!!
+1
I thought he had retired.
Probably thinks he is too good to tour in our countries  :thumbsdown

This is not the first time he does a sort of very mini European tour. And Eric is not in a great physical shape as he suffers from back injury and had to cancel 2 shows this year.
Me too is frustrated to have missed him but maybe he will tour next year.
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: superval99 on August 07, 2013, 11:14:01 AM
MK also had a back injury in 2010, but managed to carry on with the tour!    Clapton's music is too boring for me these days - his last few albums have been pretty dismal and I have stopped buying them now.   MK is running rings around EC regarding albums at the moment!   ;)
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: binone on August 07, 2013, 12:07:55 PM
Decades ago: Clapton is God.

Nowadays: Clapton is just good.
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: ds1984 on August 07, 2013, 12:21:09 PM
Decades ago: Clapton is God.

Nowadays: Clapton is just good.

But still deliver strong live.

Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: tunnel85 on August 07, 2013, 02:31:22 PM
Decades ago: Clapton is God.

Nowadays: Clapton is just good.

But still deliver strong live.


I trust you but I'd like to check by myself.   ;)
About mini tour and injuries, I understand but there's no excuse : even the good years Latin Europe is really not his priority...  :thumbsdown
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: ds1984 on August 07, 2013, 03:19:36 PM
In 2001 Eric announced that it was his last major tour and that he would step down afterwards.

Since he's still touring quite a lot but seem to give priority for some territories being mainly US UK Germany and beloved Japan.

ROW is when he's available to do. A bit like for the South American Mk fans (well it is even worst for them but Eric still tours there from time to time)...

France has not been treated too badly with concert given in 2004 - 2006 (unofficial opening of the 2006/2007 world tour) and 2010.
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: Darling Pretty on August 07, 2013, 06:09:53 PM
German stats from newspapers:

Berlin 12.500 (sold out)
Bremen 9.500
Frankfurt  approx. nearly 10.000 (Sold out)
Dresden 8.000
Bad Mergentheim 6.500
L
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: sweetsurrender on August 07, 2013, 06:29:47 PM
Deduct the catering costs from that gross, I bet Marks empire runs at a loss!

Guy's book huge sale they will make that tour financially back afloat soon.

Thank rosco for the figures.

 :thumbsup :clap

After expenses, I'm sure they came out ahead not by much.  MK always keeps ticket prices way too low to be immensely profitable. (good for us fans!)  Do you think all the musicians in MK's band get paid equally ?
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: dmg on August 07, 2013, 06:41:17 PM
Deduct the catering costs from that gross, I bet Marks empire runs at a loss!

Guy's book huge sale they will make that tour financially back afloat soon.

Thank rosco for the figures.

 :thumbsup :clap

After expenses, I'm sure they came out ahead not by much.  MK always keeps ticket prices way too low to be immensely profitable. (good for us fans!)  Do you think all the musicians in MK's band get paid equally ?

Perhaps Guy gets paid a little more for his title as "Musical Director" (and author ;)).
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: ds1984 on August 07, 2013, 08:14:06 PM
I really think that Mark would not tour if it wouldn't be financially profitable.



Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: tunnel85 on August 07, 2013, 08:42:39 PM
I really think that Mark would not tour if it wouldn't be financially profitable.
Privateering tour without Greece, Ireland and Portugal is a clear answer.
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: Lis on August 07, 2013, 09:24:24 PM
Ya, Mark does not appear to be a risk-taker  ::)
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: Justme on August 07, 2013, 09:29:10 PM
I'd recommend a slightly different approach to the question of profitability. If we consider MK as a company with different profit centers, I'd guess that there is

- the studio, that needed a lot of initial investment
- the heritage, by this I do mean the rights and income out of the DS and MK back catalogue
- the prospect of upcoming albums
- touring

In the end though, some of the best consultants are paid to deal with his businesses. He even said recently, that the studio is doing well, according to his accountants.

All this aside, I'm happy that he still sells enough tickets to fill even the big venues. More than that, it's good news that he's always writing, loves recording as well as touring and found his way into a healthy lifestyle.
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: Love Expresso on August 07, 2013, 09:39:26 PM
Ya, Mark does not appear to be a risk-taker  ::)

True, although it seemed a little risky to put up a thing like British Grove in times when recording studios went down the drain one by one...

LE
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: Knopflerfan on August 08, 2013, 08:46:58 AM
MK also had a back injury in 2010, but managed to carry on with the tour!    Clapton's music is too boring for me these days - his last few albums have been pretty dismal and I have stopped buying them now.   MK is running rings around EC regarding albums at the moment!   ;)

Craptons music has ALWAYS been boring! 
MK = Master EC = Boy: Fact!!
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: ds1984 on August 08, 2013, 09:54:39 AM
MK also had a back injury in 2010, but managed to carry on with the tour!    Clapton's music is too boring for me these days - his last few albums have been pretty dismal and I have stopped buying them now.   MK is running rings around EC regarding albums at the moment!   ;)

Craptons music has ALWAYS been boring! 
MK = Master EC = Boy: Fact!!

(http://www.ericclapton.pl/gfx/disco/big_66.jpg)

(http://media.jukebo.com/a4518/a19126.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: knopflerized on August 08, 2013, 03:44:46 PM
I really think that Mark would not tour if it wouldn't be financially profitable.
Privateering tour without Greece, Ireland and Portugal is a clear answer.

I also think that if they cancelled Russian gigs'  it's not ONLY because of what they let us know... Maybe they couldn't sell enought tix?
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: ds1984 on August 08, 2013, 04:30:15 PM
I really think that Mark would not tour if it wouldn't be financially profitable.
Privateering tour without Greece, Ireland and Portugal is a clear answer.

I also think that if they cancelled Russian gigs'  it's not ONLY because of what they let us know... Maybe they couldn't sell enought tix?

I don't think so.

I wouldn't see Mark behave like this just to hide poor selling tix. There are many other technical excuses that could be used in poor sales case.

Regarding the recent open tribunes from Mark this is to me clearly a protest decision.
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: ingridswing on August 08, 2013, 04:37:25 PM
I really think that Mark would not tour if it wouldn't be financially profitable.
Privateering tour without Greece, Ireland and Portugal is a clear answer.

I also think that if they cancelled Russian gigs'  it's not ONLY because of what they let us know... Maybe they couldn't sell enought tix?

I don't think so.

I wouldn't see Mark behave like this to hide just poor selling tix. There many other technical excise that could be used in poor sales case.

Regarding the recent open tribunes from Mark this is to me clearly a protest decision.

Totally agree. Why a new statement almost a year later when it was only windowdressing?
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: rosco on August 08, 2013, 08:35:04 PM
Here's another gig with tix sold etc

Berlin- Gross- $874,563  Crowd 11,892(12,273)

Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: knopflerized on August 09, 2013, 09:41:45 AM
I really think that Mark would not tour if it wouldn't be financially profitable.
Privateering tour without Greece, Ireland and Portugal is a clear answer.

I also think that if they cancelled Russian gigs'  it's not ONLY because of what they let us know... Maybe they couldn't sell enought tix?

I don't think so.

I wouldn't see Mark behave like this just to hide poor selling tix. There are many other technical excuses that could be used in poor sales case.

Regarding the recent open tribunes from Mark this is to me clearly a protest decision.

I was just thinking of this... but indeed I can be wrong :)
Title: Re: Concert Stats
Post by: binone on August 11, 2013, 10:22:24 AM
I think Mark, as much as many other artist, have a fixed cache. The promoters are the ones that wins or loose on every gig, depending on sales.