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Previous Tours => 2013 Privateering World Tour => Topic started by: allen on June 08, 2013, 10:37:55 AM

Title: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, Helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: allen on June 08, 2013, 10:37:55 AM
PRIVATEERING TOUR 2013 [C 30]
(http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3012.0;attach=941;image)
Location:- http://www.hartwall-areena.com   Mark Knopfler:-  http://www.hartwall-areena.com/en/index.php?id=59&nid=572
Clock @ Weather:- http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=101
TICKETS http://www.lippu.fi/cgi-bin/tickets.html?affiliate=LFI&fun=tdetaila&doc=erdetaila&key=825616
AMIT members attending:- http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php/topic,2573.0.html 
Previous Concert:- http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php/topic,3090.0.html
BUY MP3 CONCERT STICK http://www.markknopfler-live.com/epages/es639584.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/es639584/Products/131

31songs now played on this tour
SET LIST HELSINKI

Different from last Concert in RED

01- What it Is
02- Corned beef city
03- Privateering
04- Father & Son
05- Hill farmers blues
06- I dug up a diamond
07- I used to could
08- Romeo & Juliet
09- Song for Sonny Liston
10- Haul Away
11- Postcards from paraguay
12- Marbletown
13- Speedway at Nazareth
14- Telegraph road
15- So far away
16- Piper to the End


Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: allen on June 08, 2013, 10:52:22 AM
Sorry we skipped St. Petersburg show.  But here is your opportunity to get the recording of this private show: http://www.markknopfler-live.com/epages/es639584.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/es639584/Products/130

Wishes
Allen
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Love Expresso on June 08, 2013, 12:14:48 PM
Hm. Will be interesting to hear that one.

 :smack

LE
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: dmg on June 08, 2013, 08:10:15 PM
Hm. Will be interesting to hear that one.

 :smack

LE

It'll be another one of those empty sticks they've been sending out! ;D
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Ar (aka Enlight) on June 09, 2013, 05:01:04 AM
Sorry we skipped St. Petersburg show.  But here is your opportunity to get the recording of this private show: http://www.markknopfler-live.com/epages/es639584.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/es639584/Products/130

Wishes
Allen

For those who are missing the song " Money for Nothing" during this tour......... ???
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Lis on June 09, 2013, 06:57:48 AM
For those who are missing the song " Money for Nothing" during this tour......... ???
Hahaha!!!  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Love Expresso on June 09, 2013, 10:18:35 AM
As you have to pay in advance when you order  a stick I really wonder what would happen if someone really ordered St. Petersburg...

LE
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Silvertown on June 09, 2013, 07:16:59 PM
wii
cbc
privateering
father and son
hillfarmers
diamond
i used to could
romeo and juliet
song for sonny (very nice indeed)
haul away
postcards
marbletown
san
telegraph

encores:
so far away
piper
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: ingridswing on June 09, 2013, 09:02:23 PM
16 again! I hope it will change to 17/18 again
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Golden Art on June 09, 2013, 09:39:04 PM
i wish they could put Song for Sonny in a metal box, take it somewhere random, blind folded, in the middle of the night and bury it with no chance of ever finding it again.... just my opinion  :smack
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Love Expresso on June 09, 2013, 09:40:05 PM
So have you heard tonight's version already?

LE
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Golden Art on June 09, 2013, 09:41:31 PM
unless its a different song to every other time ive heard it im not in a rush to hear that one
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: knopflerized on June 09, 2013, 09:52:04 PM
So have you heard tonight's version already?

LE

I'm sure it was great  :)
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Pottel on June 09, 2013, 10:06:20 PM
i for one would be interested to hear tonights' sonny.
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Silvertown on June 09, 2013, 10:07:00 PM
So have you heard tonight's version already?

LE

I'm sure it was great  :)

Too many words but solo was great! 
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: dmg on June 09, 2013, 10:38:22 PM
i for one would be interested to hear tonights' sonny.

Me too.  Not one of my favourites but it was impressive on the 2012 tour.
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: dannr1 on June 10, 2013, 12:02:36 AM
Hmm..how the winds suddenly changed for Sonny
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: herlock on June 10, 2013, 12:10:12 AM
Hmm..how the winds suddenly changed for Sonny
I dislike the song (one of the very rare MK songs that i dare to make such a strong statement about). Neither the "melody" (if such a word can be applied to such a repetitive pattern) nor the lyrics appeal to me.
This having been said, the impro in the guitar solo is quite clever and I can understand that jazz lovers can appreciate it. Although i'm not into jazz I suprised myself having pleasure with some of the variations of the solo.
All in all, nice solo but not enough to turn a boring song into a great song, sorry.
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: sweetsurrender on June 10, 2013, 05:04:13 AM
i for one would be interested to hear tonights' sonny.

Me too.  Not one of my favourites but it was impressive on the 2012 tour.

When there are soooo manyyyyy great songs to play, I agreed that Sonny can be put to rest at some points.   :thumbsdown  I still think songs like Bluebird and Go Love will make perfect songs LIVE.  It will be nice to start the second part of the tour with a complete set of new songs.  ( our dream ! )  ;D  But keep SOS at all costs. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: goon525 on June 10, 2013, 07:38:30 AM
If we have to have a Sonny Liston song, I think I'd prefer the one from the new album. And I agree about Go Love and Bluebird - MK seems to think they wouldn't work in concert, but I think they're terrific songs. He's a great songwriter, but I'm not sure he's always the best judge of the quality of his own material.
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Love Expresso on June 10, 2013, 07:54:06 AM
I am pretty pessimistic about this "second leg" of the tour referring new songs - I am quite sure that the set we have now will do it until the end - maybe changing Diamonds with Tupelo, Sultans or not Sultans, Gator Blood or Sonny. Maybe Brothers in Arms, or Piper.
No new songs anymore. That's the usual routine.

That said, we should be happy to have quality recordings from the complete tour. 2010 the usb recordings started mid-tour at London and had pretty much all the same set lists apart from some slightly changes. Compared with the first leg of the 2010 US tour, this time we had many more new songs played - in 2010 I remember Remembrance Day as a suprise, otherwise the set was fixed pretty soon. So it's an improvement. Applause to the decision to release the complete tour on USB (except the decision to NOT release all nights from RAH and to obviously NOT release a Blu-ray from this awesome band...)

LE
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: herlock on June 10, 2013, 09:21:12 AM
I am pretty pessimistic about this "second leg" of the tour referring new songs - I am quite sure that the set we have now will do it until the end - maybe changing Diamonds with Tupelo, Sultans or not Sultans, Gator Blood or Sonny. Maybe Brothers in Arms, or Piper.
No new songs anymore. That's the usual routine.

That said, we should be happy to have quality recordings from the complete tour. 2010 the usb recordings started mid-tour at London and had pretty much all the same set lists apart from some slightly changes. Compared with the first leg of the 2010 US tour, this time we had many more new songs played - in 2010 I remember Remembrance Day as a suprise, otherwise the set was fixed pretty soon. So it's an improvement. Applause to the decision to release the complete tour on USB (except the decision to NOT release all nights from RAH and to obviously NOT release a Blu-ray from this awesome band...)

LE
I remember in 2010 we got "The fish and the bird" (if this can qualify as a "new" song) quite late in the tour. It is not impossible that Redbud Tree and TLWNF will surface at some point as they were soundchecked. And Mark really love to give us ANISLA in Paris (in 2010 and 2011). Still at least 2 of the supposlely 36 songs rehearsed would be missing. I'm surprised that we did not get STP in the UK, I thought the fact that they played it in the Range Rover gig with Nigel would have make it a good candidate for saxophonization. and WOL was played with sax too in that gig, although I hate WOL I would have loved to hear that out of curiosity. Also, they played MFN and it has been 8 years since it was not performed in a real tour, would have been possible. Oh well. I have stopped trying to guess Mark's mind. I guess nobody can, not even himself :)
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: JF on June 10, 2013, 10:13:01 AM
Quote
I'm not sure he's always the best judge of the quality of his own material

I think it's the case for most of artists, whatever the art.

I guess that many directors don't like very much their most famous films, many composers/writers prefer albums/songs that are note necessarily their "best" albums/songs, and so on...

Maybe the artist is not the best person to judge his art ?  :think
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: dmg on June 10, 2013, 11:50:22 AM
Nice video peeking through the audience of TR with some different playing in the final solo.  Nice version:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy_tFzZLfKw
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Ar (aka Enlight) on June 10, 2013, 02:10:51 PM
Quote
I'm not sure he's always the best judge of the quality of his own material

I think it's the case for most of artists, whatever the art.

I guess that many directors don't like very much their most famous films, many composers/writers prefer albums/songs that are note necessarily their "best" albums/songs, and so on...

Maybe the artist is not the best person to judge his art ?  :think


exactly  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Knopflerfan on June 10, 2013, 05:15:23 PM
i wish they could put Song for Sonny in a metal box, take it somewhere random, blind folded, in the middle of the night and bury it with no chance of ever finding it again.... just my opinion  :smack

Again I wouldn't care what MK play's 'Live' and would quite happily listen to 'Sonny'. Mind you the wouldn't care bit isnt right because I can't stand R&J anymore and will seriously think about joining Pottel in vacating my seat next time!!!
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Love Expresso on June 10, 2013, 07:12:37 PM
I'm surprised that we did not get STP in the UK, I thought the fact that they played it in the Range Rover gig with Nigel would have make it a good candidate for saxophonization.

I like the term "saxophonization.  :thumbsup  ;D

LE
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: dmg on June 10, 2013, 07:17:18 PM
I'm surprised that we did not get STP in the UK, I thought the fact that they played it in the Range Rover gig with Nigel would have make it a good candidate for saxophonization.

I like the term "saxophonization.  :thumbsup  ;D

LE

Yes, if it isn't a word - and it most certainly isn't - then it should be! ;D
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Dutchessy on June 13, 2013, 09:50:31 PM
Nice video peeking through the audience of TR with some different playing in the final solo.  Nice version:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy_tFzZLfKw

Wow, just listened to the SB version. Awsome! :clap
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: dmg on June 13, 2013, 11:25:13 PM


Wow, just listened to the SB version. Awsome! :clap

And isn't his singing great at this gig too.  Check out R&J, HA, PTtE and P.
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, Helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Pottel on June 14, 2013, 12:00:28 AM
Just Receivedvthe stick. Sounds good!
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, Helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Ar (aka Enlight) on June 15, 2013, 11:04:44 PM
Just Receivedvthe stick. Sounds good!
yeahh with a new song: Use To Cold  ;D
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, Helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: dmg on June 15, 2013, 11:10:30 PM
Just Receivedvthe stick. Sounds good!
yeahh with a new song: Use To Cold  ;D

 :lol

Also:  Band and Speedway To Nazareth!
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, Helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Lis on June 16, 2013, 06:15:33 AM
Just Receivedvthe stick. Sounds good!
yeahh with a new song: Use To Cold  ;D

 :lol

Also:  Band and Speedway To Nazareth!
:smack :smack :smack
German quality control is not the same as it used to be...
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, Helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Love Expresso on June 16, 2013, 09:14:46 AM
That's from the beginning with this company...


Hillfarmers Blues instead of Hill Farmer's Blues
Paraguay instead of Postcards From Paraguay
Sonny Liston instead of Song For Sonny Liston
 
and that's only what I am aware of... thougt about mailing this to Guy because MK is well know for being very accurate with these things... It is nitpicking, yes, but somehow it is annoying.. for me at least..

LE
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, Helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: JF on June 16, 2013, 10:12:47 PM
I know, it's off topic, but the booklet of the remastered version of "Crises "by mike Oldifield omitted the song "foreign affair" !
One entire song not mentionned !
and the remastered version of floyd's Dark side says 10 songs, while le CD has only 9 indexes (speak tome and breathe in the same), so all indexes on the booklet are false, if you wnat to go direcetly to a special track....
there are of course many many more examples

just to say that record companies in general do their job not very conscientiously IMHO

so it seems to be the same attitude here with the sticks...

for many people, these are just details, but I thinks that regarding the price, everythingh should be perfect IMHO
Title: Re: Concert # 30:2013.06.09, Hartwall Arena, Helsinki, Finland # SPOILER AHEAD #
Post by: Ar (aka Enlight) on June 17, 2013, 02:53:30 AM
I know, it's off topic, but the booklet of the remastered version of "Crises "by mike Oldifield omitted the song "foreign affair" !
One entire song not mentionned !
and the remastered version of floyd's Dark side says 10 songs, while le CD has only 9 indexes (speak tome and breathe in the same), so all indexes on the booklet are false, if you wnat to go direcetly to a special track....
there are of course many many more examples

just to say that record companies in general do their job not very conscientiously IMHO

so it seems to be the same attitude here with the sticks...

for many people, these are just details, but I thinks that regarding the price, everythingh should be perfect IMHO


Like Randy Newman told you........."Its Money that matters" (not only in the USA btw)