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Previous Tours => 2013 Privateering World Tour => Topic started by: shangri la 1 on May 14, 2013, 12:22:16 AM
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PRIVATEERING TOUR 2013 [C 14]
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Location:- http://www.ziggodome.nl/ Mark Knopfler: http://www.ziggodome.nl/event/242/Mark-Knopfler
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31songs now played on this tour
SET LIST AMSTERDAM
Different from last Concert in RED
01. What it is
02. Corned beef city
03. Privateering
04. Father ansd son
05. Hill farmer blues
06. I dug up a diamond (with Ruth Moody)
07. Seattle (with Ruth Moody)
08. Kingdom of gold (with Ruth Moody)
09. Romeo and Juliet
10. I used to could
11. Haul away
12. Postcards from Paraguay
13. Marbletown
14. Speedway at Nazareth
15. Telegraph Road
16. So far away
17. Piper to the end
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TS 6, YTC 11 and DotdS 17 ;D
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From Guys Antwerp diary:
"Soundcheck was used practicing a few of the tune we are hoping Ruth Moody may come and join us for tomorrow's Amsterdam show."
:)
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TS 6, YTC 11 and DotdS 17 ;D
I go with you for the last 2, but I think 6 will be Seattle
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Yes, feeling a little nervous like always in my hometown :)
I wear my Golden Heart :D
I go by train and will be at the Grolsch pub next to the Heineken Music Hall at 14.15.
Hope to meeting all who will be at the concert tonight somewhere in the afternoon for a drink :P
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15.30 Grolsch cafe ;) See you there!
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Have a nice time in Amsterdam everyone :wave
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I guess that track with Ruth Moody would be "Redbud tree" as MK its on his red Fender and its one they didnt play before.
Having Ruth, I wish they sing both "Redbud" and "Seattle", actually, Ruth
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Redbud Tree would be great, and it is soundchecked, so a good chance I guess. Will we have 1,2 or 3 new songs tonight? ;D
We will see....
Who is doing live setlist? Anything arranged already?
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The last was send to me by Pottel, I dont know if Pottel is there tonight too, if he can, I
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I guess that track with Ruth Moody would be "Redbud tree" as MK its on his red Fender and its one they didnt play before.
Having Ruth, I wish they sing both "Redbud" and "Seattle", actually, Ruth
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The last was send to me by Pottel, I dont know if Pottel is there tonight too, if he can, I
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I guess that track with Ruth Moody would be "Redbud tree" as MK its on his red Fender and its one they didnt play before.
Having Ruth, I wish they sing both "Redbud" and "Seattle", actually, Ruth
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The last was send to me by Pottel, I dont know if Pottel is there tonight too, if he can, I
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The last was send to me by Pottel, I dont know if Pottel is there tonight too, if he can, I
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Jbaent: send me your phonenumber by PM or e-mail, so I can replace Pottel in case the battery is empty again ;)
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Tell him to save battery!
;D
And most important, enjoy
The beer or the toilet...?
Ahem, the concert!!!? ;D
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Tell him to save battery!
;D
And most important, enjoy
The beer or the toilet...?
Ahem, the concert!!!? ;D
enjoy everything :lol
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TS 6, YTC 11 and DotdS 17 ;D
What is TS ? I don't think it will be DotdS at the end...
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What is TS ? I don't think it will be DotdS at the end...
Trawlermans Song
Just dreaming... :)
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Anyone knows wich songs they did during the soundcheck today?
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According to Pottel, the steel guitar is on stage.
So I guess Seattle or Redbud tree...
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Ruth is terrific :)
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According to Pottel, the steel guitar is on stage.
So I guess Seattle or Redbud tree...
Then I hope it's Redbud.......... ;)
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According to Pottel, the steel guitar is on stage.
So I guess Seattle or Redbud tree...
Then I hope it's Redbud.......... ;)
/mode dreamer on
OES ?????
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They played Redbud Tree at the little show in Bermondsey I believe, so more likely that than Seattle, but I hope I'm wrong. Perhaps RM will do a little Emmylou impersonation on I dug up a diamond?
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enjoy guys,looking forward to see the setlist, im getting excitied about my first gig newcastle saturday,
went to see eric clapton at the LG arena which was ok , did enjoy it but too excitied about the knopfler gigs ,
also two tracks were played guy fletchers bluesclub cd in the walk in, i have told him on his fourm
anyone thought of tonight maybe ruth moody on sailing to phildephia as the james taylor bit wondering what that would sound like??
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Show about to begin.......... :lol
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Show about to begin.......... :lol
They've been starting a bit late this tour, using the excuse "to let everyone into their seats!" ;D
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What it is
Corned beef city
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here we go........ what will it be :think
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Privateering
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:D can't wait to read what's next :)
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"You can cut the tension with a cricket stump!"
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01. What it is
02. Corned beef city
03. Privateering
04. Father ansd son
05. Hill farmer blues
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No, late because of Ruth opening.
She was very good.
But MK and band are out of this world today!!! :D
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"You can cut the tension with a cricket stump!"
LOL!
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Will she comes around on Seattle?
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No, late because of Ruth opening.
She was very good.
But MK and band are out of this world today!!! :D
Showing off in front of our lovely Ruth! :D
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I dug up a diamond with Ruth Moody
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I dug up a diamond with Ruth Moody
Very nice....... :thumbsup
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Fantastic :) Really like to hear that version! 8)
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I dug up a diamond with Ruth Moody
Told you. Na na na na-na! ;)
I think/hope she might stay out for another one...
Can't wait to watch that one on YouTube...
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Seattle (i guess with Ruth Moody)
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They played Redbud Tree at the little show in Bermondsey I believe, so more likely that than Seattle, but I hope I'm wrong. Perhaps RM will do a little Emmylou impersonation on I dug up a diamond?
That's one correct...
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Kingdom of gold with Ruth Moody
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Kingdom of gold with Ruth Moody
WOW..... :D
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Very, very nice set tonight. AND special guest! Some show. Glad to see a lot of AMITers at it.
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Very, very nice set tonight. AND special guest! Some show. Glad to see a lot of AMITers at it.
You like KOG now ? :D
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According Pottel top solo with the blue pensa
Ruth leaves, and they play ROMEO AND JULIET
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So,
I Dug Up A Diamond
Seattle
Kingdom Of Gold
Romeo & Juliet??
Wow!
LE
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I like the more guitar based version of KOG compared to the sleepy album version 8)
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The RAH shows with Ruth Moody should be stunners.
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No Sultans,
I used to could
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Haul away
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No Sultans,
I used to could
I can not believe he will not play sultans in Amsterdam ??? . It must be an encore..........
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No Sultans,
I used to could
From a great show to worst show ever. I now fear that every RAH show will be Sultans free and full of rubbish like IDUAD and IUTC instead. Is this what it is going to be like now?
Next tonight we'll find out there'll be no Speedway to top off all the misery. A potential top show spoiled by Mark's decision not to play Sultans. A selfish decision on his part.
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Postcards
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Oh my God.. shut up!! Mark is not selfish... :disbelief
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No Sultans,
I used to could
I can not believe he will not play sultans in Amsterdam ??? . It must be an encore..........
So Sad...... :'(
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From a great show to worst show ever.
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I agree unless it is played at the encores......
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01. What it is
02. Corned beef city
03. Privateering
04. Father ansd son
05. Hill farmer blues
06.I dug up a diamond (with Ruth Moody)
07. Seattle (with Ruth Moody)
08. Kingdom of gold (with Ruth Moody)
09. Romeo and Juliet
10. I used to could
11. Haul away
12. Postcards from Paraguay
Waiting more info from Pottel :)
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If the next one is Gator Blood, this is the best set so far.
LE
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01. What it is
02. Corned beef city
03. Privateering
04. Father ansd son
05. Hill farmer blues
06.I dug up a diamond (with Ruth Moody)
07. Seattle (with Ruth Moody)
08. Kingdom of gold (with Ruth Moody)
09. Romeo and Juliet
10. I used to could
11. Haul away
12. Postcards from Paraguay
13. Marbletown
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Oh my God.. shut up!! Mark is not selfish... :disbelief
Maybe not selfish...........but this is pretty weird for sure :hmm
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If the next one is Gator Blood, this is the best set so far.
LE
I wish...
But being Marble the 13rd song, 14 ill be TR, 15 will be BIA and 16 the final song, so no Gator today :(
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No Sultans,
I used to could
From a great show to worst show ever. I now fear that every RAH show will be Sultans free and full of rubbish like IDUAD and IUTC instead. Is this what it is going to be like now?
Next tonight we'll find out there'll be no Speedway to top off all the misery. A potential top show spoiled by Mark's decision not to play Sultans. A selfish decision on his part.
You're entitled to your opinion, but I strongly disagree.
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The setlist is fantastic! Sultans will show up later - great to have a complete different setlist than on previous tours!!
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OHHH - What a set!! :D Gator Blood now would be awesome!
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From a great show to worst show ever.
I agree unless it is played at the encores......
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I am just so saddened because this was all amounting to best show of the tour status and even one of the all-time memorable shows, then he does something like this "just" because he doesn't feel like playing it for his fans who have paid good money and come from far and wide to see him expecting signature tunes. They'll already be disappointed he didn't do MFN. I feel sorry for those people, that's all.
Then as an insult he has Marbletown eating up 13 minutes of a MK concert that he hardly even participates in.
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No Sultans tonight. That will not happen I'm afraid (for you). Same goes for Gator Blood. He is now in automodus again - Speedway, Telegraph, So Far Away, plus one more, that's it.
LE
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No Sultans,
I used to could
From a great show to worst show ever. I now fear that every RAH show will be Sultans free and full of rubbish like IDUAD and IUTC instead. Is this what it is going to be like now?
Next tonight we'll find out there'll be no Speedway to top off all the misery. A potential top show spoiled by Mark's decision not to play Sultans. A selfish decision on his part.
Balanced and moderate views as usual :))
Calling IDUAD rubbish is more than harsh, it is outrageous to me..
But, this is a free world ! :)
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No Sultans,
I used to could
From a great show to worst show ever. I now fear that every RAH show will be Sultans free and full of rubbish like IDUAD and IUTC instead. Is this what it is going to be like now?
Next tonight we'll find out there'll be no Speedway to top off all the misery. A potential top show spoiled by Mark's decision not to play Sultans. A selfish decision on his part.
Balanced and moderate views as usual :))
Calling IDUAD rubbish is more than harsh, it is outrageous to me..
But, this is a free world ! :)
I think it would have been derided on here had anyone else written it!
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01. What it is
02. Corned beef city
03. Privateering
04. Father ansd son
05. Hill farmer blues
06.I dug up a diamond (with Ruth Moody)
07. Seattle (with Ruth Moody)
08. Kingdom of gold (with Ruth Moody)
09. Romeo and Juliet
10. I used to could
11. Haul away
12. Postcards from Paraguay
13. Marbletown
14. Speedway at Nazareth
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saw clapton at the lg arena birmingham lastnite, and he was doing simliar things with paul carrick etc, it does make you think you dont know what is gonna happen next,and does mix up the set abit , you never could be the best i dug up a diomund or seatle, kingdom of gold we have ever heard . so carry on mark do what you want
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It's still a rather 'new' setlist, though a couple of them have been played before. Who did expect Diamond? Seattle is the 2nd time this tour, KOG too I guess? Besides, I suppose the set has been changed towards. Last year when MK was touring with BD, almost everyone wanted to hear Seattle and KOG. Now we have both...
Besides, SOS isn't perfect all the time... Listen to THE guitar part of the end solo from Bucharest. It's acutally pretty .... I'd better not give my opinion but he has played it much much better in the past. ;) I'd prefer Bonaparte instead. :lol
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I'm pretty surprised that so many at the forum don't miss SOS...........but that's seems to be the situation ???
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I miss SOS but I do not write shit about MK because of that. He has so many great songs. I am happy anyway.
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01. What it is
02. Corned beef city
03. Privateering
04. Father ansd son
05. Hill farmer blues
06.I dug up a diamond (with Ruth Moody)
07. Seattle (with Ruth Moody)
08. Kingdom of gold (with Ruth Moody)
09. Romeo and Juliet
10. I used to could
11. Haul away
12. Postcards from Paraguay
13. Marbletown
14. Speedway at Nazareth
15. Telegraph Road
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01. What it is
02. Corned beef city
03. Privateering
04. Father ansd son
05. Hill farmer blues
06.I dug up a diamond (with Ruth Moody)
07. Seattle (with Ruth Moody)
08. Kingdom of gold (with Ruth Moody)
09. Romeo and Juliet
10. I used to could
11. Haul away
12. Postcards from Paraguay
13. Marbletown
14. Speedway at Nazareth
15 TR
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16 Brothers
17 Piper
Wanna bet?
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I miss SOS but I do not write shit about MK because of that. He has so many great songs. I am happy anyway.
Great :)
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I miss SOS but I do not write shit about MK because of that. He has so many great songs. I am happy anyway.
Anyway, if Mark DOES play Sultans, they will find anything else to moan about. The creativity about not being satisfied with MK is endless it seems. He can't win.
LE
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LE: WORD, totally agree with you :thumbsup
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01. What it is
02. Corned beef city
03. Privateering
04. Father ansd son
05. Hill farmer blues
06.I dug up a diamond (with Ruth Moody)
07. Seattle (with Ruth Moody)
08. Kingdom of gold (with Ruth Moody)
09. Romeo and Juliet
10. I used to could
11. Haul away
12. Postcards from Paraguay
13. Marbletown
14. Speedway at Nazareth
15 TR
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16 Brothers
17 Piper
Wanna bet?
I bet
So far away
Piper
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I bet
So far away
Piper
Agree!
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I know that Mark has so many new songs & its about what HE wants to play, but I'm surprised that he chooses to drop Sultans rather than Telegraph Road, as that would free up more time in the set. Perhaps he has finally become bored with Sultans. I will really miss it if it becomes the next permanently retired DS tune. To me, it is more historically important as their "breakthrough" song, & probably the one most "casual fans" still want to hear.
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I miss SOS but I do not write shit about MK because of that. He has so many great songs. I am happy anyway.
Anyway, if Mark DOES play Sultans, they will find anything else to moan about. The creativity about not being satisfied with MK is endless it seems. He can't win.
LE
Not for me. It is just imo that a concert of MK is not complete with one the song that has made him this great. With this song it all started!!
i can live with no Brothers, So far away, Money for Nothing. He can play whatever he wants but in a concert of MK there must be room for at least 2 DS songs and sultans is one off them. That is how i feel about it.
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dmg.........we are not the sultans tonight ;D ;D ;D
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I miss SOS but I do not write shit about MK because of that. He has so many great songs. I am happy anyway.
Anyway, if Mark DOES play Sultans, they will find anything else to moan about. The creativity about not being satisfied with MK is endless it seems. He can't win.
LE
Yep, but would it be the same if SFA would be missing? ;D
Anyway, I think the setlists during this tour are way more interesting compared to previous tours (excluding GH tour).
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I'm pretty surprised that so many at the forum don't miss SOS...........but that's seems to be the situation ???
I am also disturbed. SOS is a milestone that HAVE TO BE PLAYED.
This being said, it does not mean that other songs like IDUAD and MT are rubbish.
And dmg, I remember you saying (rightfully so) that BIA has been played better in the past (on the night). This is also true of SOS ! Think of Alchemy and live aid, much better than today.
So why one milestone is ok not to be played and not the other ? Ok it is SOS, te one that started it all... But BIA is also a major milestone.
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SOS is a must to be played like TR !!!
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I love that song, too. And of course it was great to hear it in Bremen (he he). But I respect if he doesn't play it. The Diamond/Seattle/Kingdom(!) combo from tonight's show with the lovely voice of Ruth Moody really outweighs not hearing a dinosaur song that everyone from us has so many versions from on his hard disk..
LE
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I know that Mark has so many new songs & its about what HE wants to play, but I'm surprised that he chooses to drop Sultans rather than Telegraph Road, as that would free up more time in the set. Perhaps he has finally become bored with Sultans. I will really miss it if it becomes the next permanently retired DS tune. To me, it is more historically important as their "breakthrough" song, & probably the one most "casual fans" still want to hear.
Personally I prefer to keep TR over Sultans (of course I prefer to have both).
TR is the most sophisticated thing he ever wrote... My ultimate favorite with TOL.
Cannot go away, even with this dumb karaoke mode !
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Complete setlist or more songs tonight??
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Its all been a bit flat for me since the GH tour, i love a lot of his newer songs but i think on the GH tour the mix of DS and solo songs was better, not only that but when he played the older songs he still had fire in his playing. . anyway if it wasnt for the DS songs how many people would know who MK is and be turning out to his gigs? . . imagine if he had started his career in 1996 and GH was his first album. . would he reach the level of sucess he reached with DS and be filling the arenas?
Dont get me wrong i really love 90% of what MK does.. i expect theres lots and lots of people who are "going home" from his shows less than happy though
BUT. . .Bring on Newcastle!!! :D
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Nothing new yet
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sure he should do what he wants, I was always on his side about the dissolution of the DIRE STRAITS, but into on a night like this, in front of more lovers fans, (Netherlands was the first country where the first album come a success before than all the world) imo Mark as an exception like Range Rover party (where was played also walk of life & money for nothing) had to play SULTANS OF SWING without ifs and buts
straitsway75
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I'm pretty surprised that so many at the forum don't miss SOS...........but that's seems to be the situation ???
I am also disturbed. SOS is a milestone that HAVE TO BE PLAYED.
This being said, it does not mean that other songs like IDUAD and MT are rubbish.
And dmg, I remember you saying (rightfully so) that BIA has been played better in the past (on the night). This is also true of SOS ! Think of Alchemy and live aid, much better than today.
So why one milestone is ok not to be played and not the other ? Ok it is SOS, te one that started it all... But BIA is also a major milestone.
Good question. There is more scope in SOS for variation and improvisation whereas in BIA I feel the song has become rather boring and sounds weary to me. Compare recent versions with those from the BIA tour and MK plays and sings with so much feeling in those '85 versions compared to the "talking" lyrics he does now. He can still do BIA but I would prefer some other DS classic that sounded better.
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You know, maybe this is profanity, but I prefer SOS version from The Straits now more than from Mark. And this fact is breaking my heart, really. (
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Listen to the Bremen version. It can't get any better.
LE
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You know, maybe this is profanity, but I prefer SOS version from The Straits now more than from Mark. And this fact is breaking my heart, really. (
I agree and it breaks my heart too. . He should be raising his game and if anything adding even just 1 or 2 more DS tunes to the set not ditching them
Of course, thats only my opinion
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Listen to the Bremen version. It can't get any better.
I loved Sofia version, but this is still not 'wow' feeling :'(
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Listen to the Bremen version. It can't get any better.
I loved Sofia version, but this is still not 'wow' feeling :'(
Istanbul gave me -a bit- of Alchemy feeling...
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Reading all this SOS moaning I have to say I wish I could hear Mark play a gig without a single DS song - that would be an experience! Never could understand that SOS obsession.
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:think
You know, maybe this is profanity, but I prefer SOS version from The Straits now more than from Mark. And this fact is breaking my heart, really. (
Maybe he does too and that's why he doesn't want to play it!
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Listen to the Bremen version. It can't get any better.
I loved Sofia version, but this is still not 'wow' feeling :'(
Sofia and Bremen is the best so far. Both very good :clap :clap
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No news about the setlist?
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Pottel said that security forced them violently to go back to their seats when in TR people try to get to the stage.
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You know, maybe this is profanity, but I prefer SOS version from The Straits now more than from Mark. And this fact is breaking my heart, really. (
Amen! :'(
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No news :(
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Reading all this SOS moaning I have to say I wish I could hear Mark play a gig without a single DS song - that would be an experience! Never could understand that SOS obsession.
It's not obsession, SOS is a milestone in Mark's career. It's like McCartney gig without Yesterday (and I don't like this song, to be honest ;)).
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Reading all this SOS moaning I have to say I wish I could hear Mark play a gig without a single DS song - that would be an experience! Never could understand that SOS obsession.
It's not obsession, SOS is a milestone in Mark's career. It's like McCartney gig without Yesterday (and I don't like this song, to be honest ;)).
I like it, but I'm not sure it must be played at every gig, should it be 1000 times a milestone. I don't see any logic in that.
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Reading all this SOS moaning I have to say I wish I could hear Mark play a gig without a single DS song - that would be an experience! Never could understand that SOS obsession.
It's not obsession, SOS is a milestone in Mark's career. It's like McCartney gig without Yesterday (and I don't like this song, to be honest ;)).
I like it, but I'm not sure it must be played at every gig, should it be 1000 times a milestone. I don't see any logic in that.
Well, to be fair he's had two support tours with Dylan and not played it at any of these and therefore hasn't actually performed Sultans on tour since 2010. It should be fresh.
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The concert must be over but no news from Pottel :(
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I like it, but I'm not sure it must be played at every gig, should it be 1000 times a milestone. I don't see any logic in that.
It's little bit disrespectful to the fans, who go to Mark's gig for the first time. And I understand all that frustration feeling, because I felt it at 2008, when he didn't play MFN.
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End with sfa and piper
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SOS better by the Straits ?
:smack
No, please folks! . The singer of Straits cant
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I like it, but I'm not sure it must be played at every gig, should it be 1000 times a milestone. I don't see any logic in that.
It's little bit disrespectful to the fans, who go to Mark's gig for the first time. And I understand all that frustration feeling, because I felt it at 2008, when he didn't play MFN.
LOL
Sorry
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I bet
So far away
Piper
Agree!
Correct, very good show. Nice contribute by Ruth! Stupid security but very nice show over all.
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According to local-hero.org
no Speedway today
http://www.local-hero.org/markontour/concert/2013/05/14
is correct?? :hmm
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Pottel said that security forced them violently to go back to their seats when in TR people try to get to the stage.
Mark used to brush these stupid security monkeys away :lol :lol :lol
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01. What it is
02. Corned beef city
03. Privateering
04. Father ansd son
05. Hill farmer blues
06.I dug up a diamond (with Ruth Moody)
07. Seattle (with Ruth Moody)
08. Kingdom of gold (with Ruth Moody)
09. Romeo and Juliet
10. I used to could
11. Haul away
12. Postcards from Paraguay
13. Marbletown
14. Speedway at Nazareth
15. Telegraph Road
16. So far away
17. Piper to the end
END
Thanks Pottel and Dutchessy
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Incredible that in a show like this (with a special guest and to accommodate extra songs) he dropped Sultans, but tracks like IUTC, HA and Marbletown remained. ???
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According to local-hero.org
no Speedway today
http://www.local-hero.org/markontour/concert/2013/05/14
is correct?? :hmm
No, he played speedway
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Did Ruth Moody just sung or played banjo or something during MK songs?
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Many thanks, Pottel, Dutchessy and jbaent!!!! :clap
Pottel and Dutchessy, I hope you both really enjoyed the show!!! Would love to hear about it, when you have a few moments!!! :D
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Pottel said that security forced them violently to go back to their seats when in TR people try to get to the stage.
Mark used to brush these stupid security monkeys away :lol :lol :lol
Yes, he did :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Gqa6Cmu_56o
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Incredible that in a show like this (with a special guest and to accommodate extra songs) he dropped Sultans, but tracks like IUTC, HA and Marbletown remained. ???
And even more bizarre..........SFA made it for the show but SOS didn't ??? ???
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Did Ruth Moody just sung or played banjo or something during MK songs?
Only vocals during chorus.
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Pottel said that security forced them violently to go back to their seats when in TR people try to get to the stage.
Mark used to brush these stupid security monkeys away :lol :lol :lol
Yes, he did :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Gqa6Cmu_56o
Thanks for the video Jarle :wave
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Incredible that in a show like this (with a special guest and to accommodate extra songs) he dropped Sultans, but tracks like IUTC, HA and Marbletown remained. ???
And even more bizarre..........SFA made it for the show but SOS didn't ??? ???
Oh well, as long as they got that landmark classic song in the history of DS then the fans can go home happy! ;)
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The show was awesome. Didn't really miss sultans. Ruth was even more great addition to the songs. Lovely evening. Really honoured to meet all the lovely people from amit today. Will do a full review tommorow, traveling now
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Did Ruth Moody just sung or played banjo or something during MK songs?
Only vocals during chorus.
Yes, but by joining the band she probably halved the average age of the band members! ;D
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Security were total bunch of idiots, very agressive behaviour after SAN we came to the stage. Didn't understand that
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Kingdom of Gold was the best of the evening for me! What a stunning guitar solo :clap really loved that one.
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They played Redbud Tree at the little show in Bermondsey I believe, so more likely that than Seattle, but I hope I'm wrong. Perhaps RM will do a little Emmylou impersonation on I dug up a diamond?
very well predicted!
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Ruth was a brilliant addition on all three songs, that lady has a great voice. I missed SOS for the split second when I realized that it was not going to be played, and that was that. Totally not feel robbed of anything. A memorable ugly, but the audience was far too quite for a Dutch audience, Bremen and Antwerp had far better audiences, Amsterdam felt more like Bremen.
Their final run from the stage was also very fast, very short goodbyes, what I did hope for and thoroughly missed was yon two crows. For me he can drop Romeo and tr to, just keep sultans as a joker.
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Nice meeting all the guys by the way! Millionaires blues, Superval, Fieneke, Lars, klaus, Dennis Brouwer, Marijn, Ingrid, Jeroen Gerrits, Isaac, Jeroen van Gils, Jeroen van Tol ( many jeroens there tonight!)....
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The concert was absolutely great!
Met lots of people from the forum which was nice!
Ruth Moody as opener was beautiful and her addition in Mark's set was superb!!
Got an autograph by Mark..
Will do a full report of the adventure tomorrow!
Good night ;)
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I can't believe all this moaning i'm reading. Actually i can :-[ Every tour i read "same old songs", "MK never changes". "so boring we have to keep hearing SOS etc". Now he varies the set show to show and everyone continues to bitch. One sad day this outstanding musician will no longer be performing, think about that :'(
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I can't believe all this moaning i'm reading. Actually i can :-[ Every tour i read "same old songs", "MK never changes". "so boring we have to keep hearing SOS etc". Now he varies the set show to show and everyone continues to bitch. One sad day this outstanding musician will no longer be performing, think about that :'(
word!
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Looking forward to videos with Ruth Moody singing with MK.
I dont mind about SOS being dropped if MK plays so many solo songs specially with Ruth Moody, actually I wont mind if he stop playing TR, I
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I am still in heaven. What a superb unbelievable great night it was. This was a dream, no it was real. So far the best night for me. I can't tell you how much I look forward to more and more and more.
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By the way: marbletown was really great. I had some guests not real fans who told me it was their favorite song. I can imagine. It is musicianship at the highest level. Mark's contribution is not the biggest but I can't care less
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Ruth was a brilliant addition on all three songs, that lady has a great voice. I missed SOS for the split second when I realized that it was not going to be played, and that was that. Totally not feel robbed of anything. A memorable ugly, but the audience was far too quite for a Dutch audience, Bremen and Antwerp had far better audiences, Amsterdam felt more like Bremen.
Their final run from the stage was also very fast, very short goodbyes, what I did hope for and thoroughly missed was yon two crows. For me he can drop Romeo and tr to, just keep sultans as a joker.
About the audience........... No HMH....No Heineken perhaps?
Ziggo is a TV, telephone and internet provider and is occasionally down too :lol
Unfortunately I couldn't be there , but I am glad you all liked it. :clap
Mark would jam with a person who won a competition on the Dutch radio2,
did you see or hear anything of that?
From MK news
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DUTCH GUITARISTS: Seems that The Red Show, broadcast on Holland's Radio 2, is offering Dutch guitarists the chance to play with Mark in Amsterdam in May. Further details (09/01/13) "
and AMIT:
http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=2858.0
Thanks for your review Pottel!
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I Think the Dutch audience are some lucky people , to witness the first collaboration with an "Guest" Like Ruth Moody during this tour,
on three songs!!
And yeah , back in 1978 SOS became successful first in Holland just like Dire Straits' first album, but this is a MK tour ,
and I guess he wouldn't saddle us up with a SOS version were he pushed the lyrics to the famous licks only in the solo and strumming the ending C-chord ASAP.
So with all respect for the comments, most of the Dutch people and DJ's are delighted to make Ruth Moody more successful ,
like they did with SOS in Europe way back then .
And this only costs us SOS for the first time in history and in return Mark gave us three songs accomplished with Ruth for the first time.
Thanks for the trade Mark!!
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I'm in the States and so won't see a show on this tour, and I love Sultans, but from what I've seen and heard on YouTube, Mark should drop Sultans from the set. His heart doesn't appear to be in it, like he's going through the motions. It sounds draggy and boring to me.
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The concert was absolutely great!
Met lots of people from the forum which was nice!
Ruth Moody as opener was beautiful and her addition in Mark's set was superb!!
Got an autograph by Mark..
Will do a full report of the adventure tomorrow!
Good night ;)
Will you tell us how you got the autograph ? Looking forward to reading your review. :)
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I am still in heaven. What a superb unbelievable great night it was. This was a dream, no it was real. So far the best night for me. I can't tell you how much I look forward to more and more and more.
Ingrid, I can totally relate to the feeling of being in heaven and wanting to see more and more and more. :) You are all sooooo luckyyyyyyyy !!!!!! I'm so envious. Enjoy more shows everyone !!!!!! :thumbsup :clap
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I Think the Dutch audience are some lucky people , to witness the first collaboration with an "Guest" Like Ruth Moody during this tour,
on three songs!!
And yeah , back in 1978 SOS became successful first in Holland just like Dire Straits' first album, but this is a MK tour ,
and I guess he wouldn't saddle us up with a SOS version were he pushed the lyrics to the famous licks only in the solo and strumming the ending C-chord ASAP.
So with all respect for the comments, most of the Dutch people and DJ's are delighted to make Ruth Moody more successful ,
like they did with SOS in Europe way back then .
And this only costs us SOS for the first time in history and in return Mark gave us three songs accomplished with Ruth for the first time.
Thanks for the trade Mark!!
+ 1'000'000 :thumbsup :thumbsup
About the audience: I'd guess it's because it was all seated unlike the HMH.
Dutch people aren't Italians in the end... ;)
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When I finished highschool I had to take final exams.
They were, among others, French, English and Chemistry.
I was particularly good in Chemistry.
Nowadays I regularly switch languages and perform a smokey chemical reaction in the office. :smack
My colleagues and boss want me to, because those were milestones in my life... ;)
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Did I mention how fantastic the concert was?
What a good mood Mark and the boys were in?
Smiling, joking, experimenting... Maybe Ruth made them feel younger? ;D
It was really nice to sit between Ingridswing and Pottel, despite their Paraguayyyyyyyyyy ;) :smack
It was nice to see that Ruth was - on one hand - missing her guitar as she usually always seems to sing playing it; - on the other hand admiring Mark's playing just as we do.
The solo in the outro of KOG was really good.
But the one in IDUAD was just as good. Ruth stood so close to him and had nothing to do but stare and admire... :)
Very sweet!
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I'm jealous to all who were there, great setlist.
That he/they didn't play sultans?
Its a great song, yes for sure!
But he played it for 30+ years. Same with TR, BIA, R&J and SFA, or SAN as from his solo stuff.
Its fine for me if he play these classic songs, but i'ts also fine for me if he drop one or two and moves on to play new or rarely played songs.
What really important is for me, that i have the feeling that the band and Mark are in fresh and good mood, that they enjoy for themselve the songs that they play for us.
Because that garantie a high "quality" level of music.
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exactly, ollyz :)
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Why did I not go there.... :hmm :o
Nice view to have Ruth in London, though!!! :D :D :D
Thanks for all the posts about the show from the attendants. It's always great to have feedback on the morning after a concert so regular!
LE
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In my opinion it was a great setlist! It was nice to see how IDUAD with Ruth in a kind of subtle reggae version is transformed. CBC / IUTC really add something to the list and do the DS songs forget!
Something else, what did you think of the sound in the Dome? It was my first experience in the Dome and found far below the sound level of a concert hall.
The HMH is really great in terms of acoustic, Ziggo Dome has really disappointed me. I wonder how the band has experienced this yourself, and what was the difference with the soundcheck. Halfway Privateering was the sound fairly mixed, but has never reached the level HMH.
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As you probably know, I always think its a shame when SOS isnt played, but I wasnt at the show and I therefore guess that this was an extraordinary one due to Ruths appearance and that the dynamics of the set probably didnt suit SOS that well this time :)
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Review:
http://www.nu.nl/muziek/3464142/mark-knopfler-geeft-fans-geen-reden-klagen.html
Lars B.
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On the next tour i think only R&J and TR will be in the set of the DS songs..... The other ones are a probably.......... :think
Very nice review.
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Reading all this SOS moaning I have to say I wish I could hear Mark play a gig without a single DS song - that would be an experience! Never could understand that SOS obsession.
It's not obsession, SOS is a milestone in Mark's career. It's like McCartney gig without Yesterday (and I don't like this song, to be honest ;)).
I'm with the ones who thinks that sultans "has to" be played
BUT, on the other hand :
- I'm not sure that Yesterday is played at every Macca's gig or tour, well I don't think so
- I'm not sure that Born to run or Born in the USA is played at every Bruce's gig or tour, well I don't think so
- there were plenty of Stones' tours without Satisfaction or without paint it black or without....
- there were several EC's tours without Layla (just one night) or without cocaine (latest tours I think)
- I saw Santana in 93 : no Europa
- I saw Mr Bob in 93 (ok not really a significative example) : no like a rolling stone, no Tambourine man, no blowin in the wind, no heaven's door...
I guess there a lot more examples...
BUT on the other other hand ;):
- I'm quite sure that la grange is played at every ZZ top's gig
- I can't imagine a Purple gig without smoke on the water
- has Phil Collins ever done a gig without playing In the air tonight ? (I don't think so, but not sure)
- if you exclude The wall tour (which was a special tour), all other floyd/ waters/gilmour tours had the classics in the set
- not sure, but I don't think that Led zep did a show without whole lotta a love or stairway (after 1971 of course)
and I guess there a lot more examples too
IMHO, I would put MK/sultans in the 2nd category, but it's just MHO :)
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Review:
http://www.nu.nl/muziek/3464142/mark-knopfler-geeft-fans-geen-reden-klagen.html
Lars B.
What does it say..(in short)?
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Why complain about no Sultans of Swing?? It was a great gig and during the tour with Emmylou SoS wasn
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- I'm not sure that Yesterday is played at every Macca's gig or tour, well I don't think so
- I'm not sure that Born to run or Born in the USA is played at every Bruce's gig or tour, well I don't think so
As I know, Yesterday is played at every Macca's gig since Driving USA tour in 2002. And Bruce is played Born to Run at every gig with E Street Band.
- I can't imagine a Purple gig without smoke on the water
DP gig without Smoke on the Water is my dream, but I understand why they still play that song. But at the last tour they drop Highway Star ;)
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(bad) version of IDUAD from last night w/ Ruth Moody
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjVmjebZbys&feature=youtu.be
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As I know, Yesterday is played at every Macca's gig since Driving USA tour in 2002. And Bruce is played Born to Run at every gig with E Street Band.
ah yes, since2002.......but before ?
I'm not sure if he played it during all the 80ies and 90ies. At least I guess he did'nt play it with the wings, but in this case, it's a little bit like MK with NHBs...
as for Bruce, I saw him in 93, but he wasn't with the E-street band, and I don't remember Born to run (but my memory isn't always reliable)
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I'm not sure if he played it during all the 80ies and 90ies. At least I guess he did'nt play it with the wings, but in this case, it's a little bit like MK with NHBs...
He played it with Wings since 1975-79, I'm quite sure about that.
as for Bruce, I saw him in 93, but he wasn't with the E-street band, and I don't remember Born to run (but my memory isn't always reliable)
I think that he played it, because according to tour statistics (1993, of course), it was almost everywhere.
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Can't wait till saturday to be in Newcastle! What a great night it was. Everything was perfect. Didn't really miss SoS, would have loved to hear it though, because they were in excellent mood, enjoying themselves to the max, very energetic. So SoS would have been great. But he can't play them all.
And I see another new record here, 131 people online during live setlist :clap
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I hope to see you at Newcastle Ingrid, I'll be there with my wife - 2nd row, seats 43 & 44 ( I'm not sure how far left that is, but I'm
expecting to be in front of John & Jim).
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I hope to see you at Newcastle Ingrid, I'll be there with my wife - 2nd row, seats 43 & 44 ( I'm not sure how far left that is, but I'm
expecting to be in front of John & Jim).
I will make a thread for Newcastle, where to meet.
I am at row 1, seat 36, so pretty close to you
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So Far Away in Hamsterjam (incomplete) front row
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNciuV_OMcE&feature=youtu.be
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But he can't play them all.
in a 2 hours show, clearly not, but he could play a bit longer, and shorten Marbletown...
I agree with fans saying that the issue isn't the number of songs, but the choice.... why choose SFA instead of SOS ? :smack
ok ok I know, all this stuff has already hundreds times being said, so I stop now :-X
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Totally not feel robbed of anything. A memorable ugly, but the audience was far too quite for a Dutch audience, Bremen and Antwerp had far better audiences, Amsterdam felt more like Bremen.
Difference there (possibly without noticing) is that in the other two concerts Sultans was played! It does get by far the biggest response from the audience.
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But he can't play them all.
in a 2 hours show, clearly not, but he could play a bit longer, and shorten Marbletown...
I agree with fans saying that the issue isn't the number of songs, but the choice.... why choose SFA instead of SOS ? :smack
ok ok I know, all this stuff has already hundreds times being said, so I stop now :-X
No way he should shorten Marbletown, I realy love this long version :clap
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I have a recording until TR. Will upload the Ruth songs on YT. Anyone who wants the full recording, send me a message
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I can't believe all this moaning i'm reading. Actually i can :-[ Every tour i read "same old songs", "MK never changes". "so boring we have to keep hearing SOS etc". Now he varies the set show to show and everyone continues to bitch. One sad day this outstanding musician will no longer be performing, think about that :'(
I would agree fully with that. The poor man doesn't stand a chance!
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Here's my review of the concert:
Autograph
My day started at about 12 o'clock at the Conservatorium Hotel were the band was staying.
I sat down in the lobby and enjoyed some cappucino's and Fanta.
First I saw Jim and Guy, I had a little chat with them and got there autographs as well. They were heading to the Van Gogh Museum.
After a while I had to go to the toilet and when I came back I walked into Mark, who was in his training clothing, heading to the gym.
I said 'Hi Mark' and he smiled at me and politely returned the greeting.
Later on I also spotted Mike, Ian and Paul.
But at 2 o'clock one of the Range Rovers drove to the (hotel) entrance, it was Bernie.
15 minutes later a guy from the management (I believe his name is Pete) came into the lobby. My feeling said it should be for Mark, who had the jam-thing with the winner from the Radio2 contest. At about 14.45 Mark suddenly came out the elevator with a guitarcase and a bag.
I grabbed my pen and Privateering cover and walked towards him. I asked him if he could sign it. The managemant guy waved me away but Mark said: 'Sure! Let me get in the car first.' And so I walked with them towards the car and Mark gave his stuff to Bernie and sat down in the car, I had to give my pen and cover to the management guy and he gave it to Mark. Mark was very gentle and he asked for my name. I had to spell it for him but he put it on the cover with his signature under it. Have gave it back to me and wished me a good day and a nice concert.
Mark seemed to be in a hurry so I didn't ask for a photo and didn't made one when he was signing, also because the managemant guy was watching me tight.
But it was very nice though!
Fanmeeting
After that I went by train to the fanmeeting at the Grolsch Cafe. It was very cosy and nice to meet all these lovely people and sharing my story from earlier the day with them!
Ruth
At 7.45 Ruth Moody and her band came on stage to play. She played for 45 minutes and I think it was wonderful.
Her music seemed to fit with Mark's! At a certain moment se said this is a song you might know. I was hoping for a MK cover but it turned out the be a very nice cover of Bruce Springsteen's Dancing in the Dark, the song is also on her latest album.
It were 45 minutes of absolute pleasure and I was hoping she would join Mark&co on stage later, which turned out to be so!
Mark
After a 30 minute stage change, Mark and the band came on at 9pm. This is what we were looking forward to!
The usual first 5 songs were powerful and seemed to bring the audience in a good mood, but I certainly enjoyed it very very much.
Then Mark introduced Ruth and same came to the stage again. The did a wonderful arrangement of IDUAD! After that Ruth sang in the chorus on Seattle and KOG.
After 3 songs Ruth got of stage and Mark continued R&J and the whole audience seemed to love it, in my opinion he didn't make big mistakes and it was a great version. We were hoping for Sultans after that but they started IUTC. For a moment we thought it was a pity SOS was missing but actually we didn't miss it, IUTC was a nice rocker. Then Haul Away came, which isn't my favorite but I did enjoy it. The band intro is the best since years and I absolutely love it this way in Paraguay.
Following up was Marbletown, I don't peticuarly like this song, but when your there, it is great to see these guys play it. Speedway and TR were powerfull and they went of.
Something strange happened during TR, we went to the front to stand but security said we had to go back, but nobody payed any attention ofcourse. A minute later more security came and they forced us back!?
After TR we went again and this time they let us.
Mark played SFA and Piper and went back to the hotel. Piper was great because I like the waving during the end solo
All by all, this was a great day and a wonderful concert!
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But he can't play them all.
in a 2 hours show, clearly not, but he could play a bit longer, and shorten Marbletown...
I agree with fans saying that the issue isn't the number of songs, but the choice.... why choose SFA instead of SOS ? :smack
ok ok I know, all this stuff has already hundreds times being said, so I stop now :-X
No way he should shorten Marbletown, I realy love this long version :clap
+1. Marbletown is the new TOL, the only extended stuff nowadays !
I agree though that playing SFA (little tune of no importance) i/o SoS (THE milestone) is nonsense. Oh well...
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Thanks for your detailed review of your day. I'm glad you had a good time.
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I agree Herlock, Sultans as an ancore would be awesome instead of SFA :)
Thanks Klaas for the review.
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In this dropping of Sultans thing - do you think he would drop it in a concert he was going to record for DVD if it is that unimportant to him...
Can't get over the number of people of a MK forum who want to watch the other band members more than MK and who prefer to listen to them than MK play guitar! No wonder he keeps playing Marbletown. Marbletown - that word will curse me 'till the day I die.
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As we all seem to know the expectations and needs of an average concert goer familiar with DS (because noone can be so dull to attend an MK show for MK's solo's sake :smack ), I dare say that SFA fits them better than SOS.
It's been sold more often, it's short and easy listening mainstream... :P
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Back home moat? See you soon :D
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Here's my review of the concert
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All by all, this was a great day and a wonderful concert!
Thanks for your review Klaas, appreciated :thumbsup
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Marbletown - that word will curse me 'till the day I die.
And there's a title for another song right there !
With the question of a DVD still "up in the air", I think he would drop Sultans because (and this argument has been used before)
there are other versions already available. - It was dropped from the "On The Night" Video (but probably due to time constraints).
Much as I'd like to hear Ruth Moody (although I don't think she's on at Newcastle), I'd rather he played a set that included Sultans
and although Marbletown is much better live than on the album, having heard it on the last 3 tours (2008 was my favourite version)
I wouldn't miss that at all !
Edit, I just picked my guitar up & played Sultans, & I feel much better now LOL ;D
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Marbletown - that word will curse me 'till the day I die.
And there's a title for another song right there !
With the question of a DVD still "up in the air", I think he would drop Sultans because (and this argument has been used before)
there are other versions already available. - It was dropped from the "on The Night" Video (but probably due to time constraints).
Much as I'd like to hear Ruth Moody (although I don't think she's on at Newcastle), I'd rather he played a set that included Sultans
and although Marbletown is much better live than on the album, having heard it on the last 3 tours (2008 was my favourite version)
I wouldn't miss that at all !
Dropping SoS, TR and TOL from "On The Night" was a sad decision for us who like diversity.
I think Mark's logic was to get a live album as different as Alchemy as possible, and that the Alchemy versions were already excellent ones. Maybe after all he was not too happy with Chris Witten's drumming, see the "drummer" thread :) Too bad for those who like long sax breaks or "out of this world" solos....Still, he kept RAJ, PI and SR which were also present on Alchemy. Oh well... The Alchemy + On The Night combination is a good one, very good versions of everything, by any standard. Again only those who want diversity (I am one) are disappointed...
What I want on the DVD is not another bare bone SoS (I have plenty, starting with Old Grey Whistle test), or not even IDUAD with Ruth, I think the version with Emmylou on the RLRR DVD is quite definitive. What I want in priority is the songs we don't have on video: WII, HFB, MT, Piper, YTC, KOG... and maybe TR still, because we only have one (excellent but still alone) version on video !
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Review:
http://www.nu.nl/muziek/3464142/mark-knopfler-geeft-fans-geen-reden-klagen.html
Lars B.
What does it say..(in short)?
thanks to google translate:
The noise in the hall disappears abruptly as Knopfler announced. The famous riff of What It Is echoes through the room and knows with his seven band members the 63-year-old singer immediately set the tone. His distinctive guitar and voice experience still unaffected by the years of touring.
That is to mention. At least unique The setlist this tour is almost the same every show, with plenty of room for Knopfler's solo material. A disappointment for those who hoped for a night dire straits, but the band is no reason to make a boring evening of it.
concentration
The enthusiasm of the musicians radiates from. During the songs is striking how quiet the room is. No annoying chatter or cups falling, but pure concentration and respect for what is going on stage. Knopfler is known for his songs live just something else to play and this is no exception.
Much insulated causing a considerable stretch occurs in the playing of songs. Singer Ruth Moody may provide background vocals for a few songs. Fortunately the Dire Straits fans also get their money.
complain
Scoops like Sultans Of Swing and Money For Nothing remain, but with Romeo And Juliet and Telegraph Road there is no reason for them to complain. Almost without interaction - a single announcement or "thank you" - have been leaving the band after nearly two hours onstage.
Everyone left with the hope of more, though it's after So Far Away and Piper To The End really ended. After the mixed reactions: The one wanted to hear more of Dire Straits others took it as it was perfect. Everyone is agreed that Knopfler for a quality evening music has created.
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:thumbsup :wave
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I was far less exited about the concert then most of you who were in Amsterdam last night. The sound at the Ziggo Dome was terrible, by far the worst I've heard in many many years (I go to a lot of concerts, small and big venues). The overall volume was nice, could have been a little bit louder but is was okay, but the mix was horrible. Sporadic there was a lot of low/bass and there far too much high. Mike sounded crap on Father and Son, Jim's high notes on piano were terrible and MK's Pensa on Telegraph sounded like a 50 dollar guitar. There was absolutely no mid. All the mid frequencies, very important for guitars and pianos, were inaudible. I really blame the sound guys for this. I was so busy focussing on the sound and everything I could not hear, that I could not enjoy the show as much as I normally do. I have to say it got me a bit upset. By the way, did anyone notice that Glenn's upright bass didn't work on Privateering?
I also dare to say that it was MK's weakest concert I've seen so far. To put it in perspective, last night was my 8th MK concert since the turn of the century. I found his guitar playing weak in 2008, but it got a lot better during the GL tour. With Bob in 2011 his playing was superb, almost level Shangri-La tour. But yesterday I found his playing weak again. Strangely his acoustic skills are unparalleled (Privateering, Marbletown, R&J), but his solos on Hill Farmers Blues and I Used To Could were not very good. It got better in the second half of the set (Kingdom, Speedway, Telegraph).
But, there were highlights too, of course. Seattle and Kingdom Of Gold were stunning with Ruth, very happy to have heard those two. Speedway was great and So Far Away was very powerful. Piper To The End is a great song the finish with. I find it interesting how R&J still develops after 33 years, again they have made small changes to the arrangement and I really got a bit emotional during that song. It is a real gem. I think his current band is probably his best one. Jim on R&J is pure genius and Ian is by far the most skilled and sophisticated drummer he has worked with during his solo days. He takes the 'karaoke' out of Telegraph Road.
Overall I was happy to see MK again, I still think he and his skills are extremely rare and we are all very lucky that he still tours. Next time I'll be there of course and I hope the overall experience will be better.
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A very honest interesting review, thanks.
I have to agree and say his playing in 2011 was great.
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What seats did you have TheTimeWasWrong? I sat frontrow, in front of Mike, and really can't second what you write here about the soundquality.
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Soundquality in the front was very good i think.
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Front row is never a reference when it comes to the acoustics of a venue.
In a good one, it's acoustcally better to not sit in the front row.
But the question was about the mixing, which again could be caused by the fact that Chuck sat next to the stage rather than mid-venue?
Just guessing...
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Hi there,
I totally agree with the remarks TheTimeWasWrong made.
I sat first ring, in the back left corner (as seen from the stage, "Guy's side") and sound was poor there... When Jim played higher notes, I couldn't hear anything of Mark's guitar. As if there was a sort of interference: when you try to play a song too loud on speakers that are too small. Then during Marbletown, was Mike even attached to the PA, as I just saw him playing... ??
I really like to hear all those guitars, but when there were more than two, the others were inaudible. Only Richard's guitars were clear, every time.
Part of this is my own fault: I was too late with buying tickets, as I went with relatives, who had to "think and decide and ehhmmm, dunno yet etc". Then most of the floor seats were gone, and usually sound is better there, so next time I'll be on the floor!
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What seats did you have TheTimeWasWrong? I sat frontrow, in front of Mike, and really can't second what you write here about the soundquality.
We had tickets at the first floor, section 109. A friend of mine ordered the tickets (normally I do, but I had no internet connection that day) as soon as they were available, but he had no choice in selecting seats. We were with a group of 5 people, 3 of them had never seen MK before. They were impressed but admitted the sound was crap where we're located.
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Yes, the ring isn't very good, sat there at concert of Paul Simon.
Mixing wasn't bad except some problems sometimes, indeed Privateering, but I saw Glenn was doing something with the cable during the song and it improved a little.
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By the way: what does Guy mean, when he says: "We had a special show for many reasons"?
Does he mean Ruth's wonderful presence during the three songs, to which she beautifully sang backing vocals (Emmylou, watch out!), or would he hint at the audience, I mean the people that started cheering and whistling BEFORE the songs were finished? (As in the quiet parts in Marbletown, RAJ, and, and...) or does it happen more often, that people in the audience start applauding when Mike and Glenn start to play there "duet"?
Also, it seemed to me that MK looked a bit surprised at the end of one song (can't remember which one), when the applauding was so loud that the band had to "wait" a few seconds to play the final chord. Did anyone else notice this?
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As everybody is earmonitored on stage and that you get dedicated front row PA mix, a MK concert from front row now is always a good choice.
To get better than this then you have to rely on gambling adequation between the general PA, both for mix and loudness level, and the acoustic of the venue.
Antic Theatre with natural execptionnal acoustic can be the venues to get farer seat and enjoy perfection.
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Marbletown is the new TOL
a little bit exaggerated IMHO
Marbletown is a folk-bluegrass jam, without a doubt fun to play for 2 or 3 band members, (maybe) fun to listen to some extend, but certainly not an elaborated piece of prog-rock like Tunnel of love was, mainly during the BIA tour.
Marbletown is "just" musicians jamming over (almost) the same chord.
TOL is a sophistically (even not as such sa TR) piece of music, a very well constructed structure iwth intro/verse/chorus/bridge, etc...
so to me it's not comparable
I like jamming, no problem with that, but it's not the same as a song composed in an extended way
Even if TOL was extended live, it was already a long piece in studio. It's not the case for Marbletown.
Sure, Marbletown is "extende stuff" in term of song duration, but not in the same way as TOL or TR are, or as OUATITW, WWE, Sultans, were "extended" in the 80ies.
It's like if you would say that Bohemian Rhapsody, Stairway to heaven, close to the edge, tubular bells or Supper's ready are "extended stuff" just like voodoo chile, Red house, same old blues, or refried boogie (almost 40' !) by Canned heat
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It happens more often that people start applauding during songs, not only in the Netherlands.
And yes I noticed it too, but can't remember when it was. He smiled when he noticed he couldn't start because the audience was still cheering really loud :)
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I agree Herlock, Sultans as an ancore would be awesome instead of SFA :)
100% agree.
Sultans should be played as an encore, or at least at the end of the show.
remember in early days, it was played at the end, not in the middle of the show like it is since the MM tour
I think that another surprise that Mark could do would be : not necessarily to change the songs, but to change the songs order.
Imagine Sultans before Romeo.... and it has already been done : on Mandela ! so it's possible ! (and the best WOL version as an opener ! so all is possible !)
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By the way: what does Guy mean, when he says: "We had a special show for many reasons"?
Does he mean Ruth's wonderful presence during the three songs, to which she beautifully sang backing vocals (Emmylou, watch out!), or would he hint at the audience, I mean the people that started cheering and whistling BEFORE the songs were finished? (As in the quiet parts in Marbletown, RAJ, and, and...) or does it happen more often, that people in the audience start applauding when Mike and Glenn start to play there "duet"?
Also, it seemed to me that MK looked a bit surprised at the end of one song (can't remember which one), when the applauding was so loud that the band had to "wait" a few seconds to play the final chord. Did anyone else notice this?
That was during Marbletown at the end. It happens at more shows. In Bremen was everybody applauding for a while after Sultans. MK had to wait before starting Gator Blood.
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In Bremen was everybody applauding for a while after Sultans. MK had to wait before starting Gator Blood.
No, you must be wrong there because no one likes Sultans, no one misses it or would be bothered if he didn't play it. ;)
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Marbletown is the new TOL
a little bit exaggerated IMHO
Marbletown is a folk-bluegrass jam, without a doubt fun to play for 2 or 3 band members, (maybe) fun to listen to some extend, but certainly not an elaborated piece of prog-rock like Tunnel of love was, mainly during the BIA tour.
Marbletown is "just" musicians jamming over (almost) the same chord.
TOL is a sophistically (even not as such sa TR) piece of music, a very well constructed structure iwth intro/verse/chorus/bridge, etc...
so to me it's not comparable
I like jamming, no problem with that, but it's not the same as a song composed in an extended way
Even if TOL was extended live, it was already a long piece in studio. It's not the case for Marbletown.
Sure, Marbletown is "extende stuff" in term of song duration, but not in the same way as TOL or TR are, or as OUATITW, WWE, Sultans, were "extended" in the 80ies.
It's like if you would say that Bohemian Rhapsody, Stairway to heaven, close to the edge, tubular bells or Supper's ready are "extended stuff" just like voodoo chile, Red house, same old blues, or refried boogie (almost 40' !) by Canned heat
I agree I exagerated a bit. By no means I would compare Marbletown to TOL: listening to Marbletown makes me in a good mood, but listening to TOL would almost give me a heart stroke :)
The only thing I meant is that Mark is not into extended things anymore, he does not rewrite the songs the was he used to, live he is much closer to studio than ever, so when we get, by exception, an extended song, we should be glad and not see with with contempt - that's all ! :)
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The only thing I meant is that Mark is not into extended things anymore, he does not rewrite the songs the was he used to, live he is much closer to studio than ever, so when we get, by exception, an extended song, we should be glad and not see with with contempt - that's all ! :)
Mark is not writing complicated songs any more - they are very simple things with just lyrics and the occasional nice little celtic melody (that all sound pretty similar and are done to death now). Mark has said on several occasions himself that his songs are getting simpler.
He no longer writes long instrumental passages into his songs or between the lyrics on a regular basis and this suits him well for his live shows.
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But in the meantime Mark on stage still like to develop or to link intro into another song such as F&S.
I guess the coniousness tells him make it short and simple while the inconsciousness tells him be Mark and do the things you are good at.
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It happens more often that people start applauding during songs, not only in the Netherlands.
And yes I noticed it too, but can't remember when it was. He smiled when he noticed he couldn't start because the audience was still cheering really loud :)
I beleive it was when he wanted to end Marbletown with those ending licks, it was fun to watch
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The only thing I meant is that Mark is not into extended things anymore, he does not rewrite the songs the was he used to, live he is much closer to studio than ever, so when we get, by exception, an extended song, we should be glad and not see with with contempt - that's all ! :)
Mark is not writing complicated songs any more - they are very simple things with just lyrics and the occasional nice little celtic melody (that all sound pretty similar and are done to death now). Mark has said on several occasions himself that his songs are getting simpler.
He no longer writes long instrumental passages into his songs or between the lyrics on a regular basis and this suits him well for his live shows.
Agreed for the most part (we have not seen anything comparable to TOL and TR in the solo career, even SAN is pretty simple compared to those), but they are exceptions: YTC is one of them, takes a long time to build with a bombastic finale (at least live), quite wonderful !
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It happens more often that people start applauding during songs, not only in the Netherlands.
And yes I noticed it too, but can't remember when it was. He smiled when he noticed he couldn't start because the audience was still cheering really loud :)
I beleive it was when he wanted to end Marbletown with those ending licks, it was fun to watch
Yes, that's correct
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In Bremen was everybody applauding for a while after Sultans. MK had to wait before starting Gator Blood.
No, you must be wrong there because no one likes Sultans, no one misses it or would be bothered if he didn't play it. ;)
Hehe..that stings..
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Does anyone know wich songs Ruth played?
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Does anyone know wich songs Ruth played?
Dancing in the dark ;)
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Does anyone know wich songs Ruth played?
Dancing in the dark ;)
Are you Guy Fletcher?
;D ;D ;D
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Agreed for the most part (we have not seen anything comparable to TOL and TR in the solo career, even SAN is pretty simple compared to those), but they are exceptions: YTC is one of them, takes a long time to build with a bombastic finale (at least live), quite wonderful !
Yes, but the studio version is pretty basic and even live the solo only gets going when it suddenly stops! :o
Only Speedway has come close, but that isn't really epic, more a crescendo style song building up.
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In Bremen was everybody applauding for a while after Sultans. MK had to wait before starting Gator Blood.
No, you must be wrong there because no one likes Sultans, no one misses it or would be bothered if he didn't play it. ;)
8) 8) 8)
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In Bremen was everybody applauding for a while after Sultans. MK had to wait before starting Gator Blood.
No, you must be wrong there because no one likes Sultans, no one misses it or would be bothered if he didn't play it. ;)
8) 8) 8)
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Following a request from Mr Fletcher, last night's set list has been revised so as not to spoil things for people who don't want to know what was played: ;D
01. I am What I am
02. The Spam song
03. Yo Ho Ho & a bottle of rum
04. Sisters, Sisters.
05. Old MacDonald
06. Working In a coal mine (with Ruth Moody)
07. If You're Going to San Francisco (with Ruth Moody)
08. Frowning Athuallpa (with Ruth Moody)
09. Maria
10. The Little Train That Could
11. The Volga Boat song
12.(wait a minute) Mr Postman
13. Railroad Blues
14. Away in a Manger
15. Ocean Drive
16. Long ago and oh so far away
17. Mull Of Kintyre
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LOL
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Hi everyone! I'm just back from Amsterdam and thoroughly enjoyed the concert! For those of you who are moaning, yet again, about the setlist, etc, I have to say that this was one of the best concerts I have attended and I think you had to be there to appreciate how good it was.
Ruth Moody was especially good and so was her band. She played songs from her new album "These Wilder Things" and also from "The Garden" plus "Dancing in the Dark".
WII, CBC, Privateering, Father & Son and HFB were played very well and I really enjoyed them. Then Ruth joined Mark on stage. IDUAD was wonderful, with a great solo from Mark. I didn't miss the duelling guitars one bit btw and actually liked it more than the Emmylou version. Then came "Seattle". This is one of my favourite songs from the album and it was great, as was KOG, which had a magnificent solo and Ruth's harmonising vocals were really beautiful on all of these songs.
R & J was lovely as usual, but I think the final solo didn't go quite to plan and I noticed a little shrug of Mark's shoulder as he looked over at Richard. I would have loved to have heard SOS, but it was such a wonderful concert that it didn't seem to matter somehow. I'm sure it will turn up again soon anyway!
My personal highlight of a wonderful concert was "Marbletown"! The quiet part where Glenn and John play together was truly special and this time it seemed a bit jazzy! I loved every moment of it! Speedway was played as powerfully as ever and TR was great too, but I think the final solo went a bit wrong in places and I feel that now I am ready for it to be retired in favour of other songs. I say that with a very heavy heart btw!
Security was very heavy handed and we had to return to our seats, but we came back after TR!
Everyone seemed to have enjoyed the show, judging from the cheers from the audience and I had a great time too!
It was also really great to meet lots of lovely people from this forum - some who I have met before, but also others I met for the first time at this concert! Such lovely people! :wave
Now I can't wait for Liverpool on Sunday, which should be interesting as Nigel Hitchcock will be playing!
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Thanks, Val! I was eagerly waiting for your review of your first show! :wave
Sounds very promising and it's great that you had a good time at Amsterdam! :thumbsup
LE
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Just like Val, I also just arrived home and all I can say at this moment is:
The concert was FANTASTIC, WONDERFUL, I LOVED and ENJOYED it! :P
What a great time we had.
Also meeting the fans at the fans meeting was great. To those of you I wasn't able to hug and say goodbye after the concert,
I hope we will meet again in future! :wave
Fieneke
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Yes, after the show we got lost of each other. In Zwolle we better arrange an after concert fanmeeting as well.
Since it's on a friday (almost) nobody has to work the next day, so I guess we can go for a drink after the show :D
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Yes, after the show we got lost of each other. In Zwolle we better arrange an after concert fanmeeting as well.
Since it's on a friday (almost) nobody has to work the next day, so I guess we can go for a drink after the show :D
Now I will arrive by car, so I can have a beer or two afterwards! (mom is driving ;D)
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i recorded ruth's set too so when i prepare it i will hear all the titles as she mentioned all of them.
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Kingdom of Gold:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28FT7HwwmdU
Still working on the recording. Didn't have much time today. Will finish it all tommorow and send the people who send me a message the link.
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Kingdom of Gold:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28FT7HwwmdU
Still working on the recording. Didn't have much time today. Will finish it all tommorow and send the people who send me a message the link.
Great! :clap
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Ruth's addition actually makes the chorus less repetitive sounding and the lyrics part of this version sounds great, but unfortunately it's let down by the worst KOG solo ever sadly imo. Sounds more like he's just playing the song out rather than soloing.
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Ruth's addition actually makes the chorus less repetitive sounding and the lyrics part of this version sounds great, but unfortunately it's let down by the worst KOG solo ever sadly imo. Sounds more like he's just playing the song out rather than soloing.
I disagree with that. I loved the solo :thumbsup
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Ruth's addition actually makes the chorus less repetitive sounding and the lyrics part of this version sounds great, but unfortunately it's let down by the worst KOG solo ever sadly imo. Sounds more like he's just playing the song out rather than soloing.
I disagree with that. I loved the solo :thumbsup
I totally disagree too! I have just been listening to a recording we made that night and the solo in KOG was fantastic, so nothing you can say can change my mind! Also I read your moans about Marbletown and it was magnificent - probably the best I have heard! You weren't at the concert dmg, I was and I can tell you it was all wonderful!
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Ruth's addition actually makes the chorus less repetitive sounding and the lyrics part of this version sounds great, but unfortunately it's let down by the worst KOG solo ever sadly imo. Sounds more like he's just playing the song out rather than soloing.
I disagree with that. I loved the solo :thumbsup
I totally disagree too! I have just been listening to a recording we made that night and the solo in KOG was fantastic, so nothing you can say can change my mind! Also I read your moans about Marbletown and it was magnificent - probably the best I have heard! You weren't at the concert dmg, I was and I can tell you it was all wonderful!
Well that's the main thing Val. Everyone there seemed to enjoy it and I'm glad for everyone who had a great day. :)
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i recorded ruth's set too so when i prepare it i will hear all the titles as she mentioned all of them.
Great, Pottel! Looking forward to the titles :)
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IDUAD with Ruth Moody:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P41qC0mTH1g&feature=youtu.be
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Seattle with Ruth Moody
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfI3d1IW8a0&feature=youtu.be
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Posted this one also in Youtube section, but I thought it belongs here too.
Including the, in a review called overenthousiastic clown in orange suit, Dutch announcement by Paul Crockford.
Filmed fom balcony, so you have a good look whats going on on stage....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6rr-feh_ak
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HI, my dear boys and girls on amit,
While some of us were discussing if SOS should have been played , If Rudy fits in the songs, if Mark's solo was good etc. during the ziggo dome gig.
There was a girl in the audience to see a Mark Knopfler concert , because her brother loved Dire Straits,
indeed "LOVED" because he was no longer in her life, he passed away.
Her biggest wish was to see and hear Mark playing, because her brother was a big fan.
she said: Mark Knopfler's guitar sounds will always be connected to the memory of my brother .
She filmed and posted fragments of the show on you-tube:
the text at the bottom during the beginning of her you-tube post says:
"Mark Knopfler (the hero of my beloved brother*) live @ the Ziggo dome, A night never to forget, thank you Rob x "
I posted a comment to say: "I am sorry, also on behalf of the Dire Straits fan community around the globe".
It still gives me the shivers watching it, but fellows we may disagree with each others once in awhile (and that's ok ),
but do we agree that we should give some strength to a sister whom lost her brother, an Hugh Dire straits fan,
just like us, who can not agree or disagree or even listen to any song Mark did perform.
so please comment on her you-tube video, because we can.
so far the comments are in Dutch, but let her feel , that we "Mark Knopfler/Dire Straits fans around the world , do care about each other"
Thank you all in advance
Ar/Enlight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na5Z8XEt-g4
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IDUAD with Ruth Moody:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P41qC0mTH1g&feature=youtu.be
Lars, Thanks for the sound. Is there a video of the song. Personally I like the version with Emmy much much more. Or just Mark himself. :) What a beautifulllllll song !!!!
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Nice sound Lars!
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Thank you Enlight!
Sad but cute story. I replied on yt.
Great compilation of the show for newbies... :)
Thank you for the videos, Lars!
I really like Ruth's voice!
Of course she's less experienced and mature than Emmy, but hey, what will she become!?
Just great! :)
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IDUAD with Ruth Moody:
Is there a video of the song. Personally I like the version with Emmy much much more. Or just Mark himself. :) What a beautifulllllll song !!!!
As requested, my film. Not the best quality but hey, what can men excpect filmed from row 13. Thanks to our great service from prebooking with MK.com :disbelief
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjVmjebZbys
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I have both of Ruth's albums, "The Garden" and "These Wilder Things" and they are both beautiful, especially the latter. Most of the songs she sang at Amsterdam are on "These Wilder Things". Highly recommended! :thumbsup
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so please comment on her you-tube video, because we can.
:thumbsup
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IDUAD with Ruth Moody:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P41qC0mTH1g&feature=youtu.be
Lars, Thanks for the sound. Is there a video of the song. Personally I like the version with Emmy much much more. Or just Mark himself. :) What a beautifulllllll song !!!!
Some of my favorite MK songs are those in which a woman is either singing harmony or a duet. He just exudes masculinity, especially with his baritone voice, and adding a female voice to the mix makes him even more s-e-x-y. I would like to hear Ruth do a duet with him....maybe that will happen at RAH. She has a beautiful voice. :thumbsup
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True, Joan! :P Will you be at the RAH btw - it would be nice to meet you?
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True, Joan! :P Will you be at the RAH btw - it would be nice to meet you?
No, I wish. I would love to meet you and some of the other AMITers, too. Maybe next tour. :(
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THANKS for sharing the feeling MOAT and RUDIGER :thumbsup
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Enlight: Before I came here this evening, I was watching videos of the show in Amsterdam and watched also the beautiful video of the girl you are talking about. I have been posting a little message and also told her that sticks can be bought of this concert. That way she will be able to have this memory for always!
Zeeley: THANK YOU for your beautiful video, I loved watching! :P I have been recording some songs as well, but I think the quality isn't so good, although I was sitting at row 1. :smack I will try to upload some and see if the quality gets a bit better at YouTube.
Lars: Thank you for your uploads as well!
Joan it is a pity that you can't come to London, I would love to meet you therel! :wave
Fieneke
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I just saw your comment on You-tube Fieneke, much warmth from the heart!
thx for sharing the feeling :clap
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My recording is finally ready 'to ship'! Will start sending the promised links in an hour or something. Thanks so much to the great enlight who was so kind to do the editing and the mastering, really great job. Thank you very much!
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hey enlight, can i send you my first 4 recordings, for a little of your magic??
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hey enlight, can i send you my first 4 recordings, for a little of your magic??
One at the time Pottel, one at the time.
Al those waiting raw version on my HD can make me nervous, and I don't wanna break down :hmm
you know how to reach me my friend ;D
BTW fellows, its not my contributions that I like to say that Lars' recording is very nice to have next to what ever stick you may have bought and received. :thumbsup
so ask him for the link , I am sure he will kindly provide them!
Thx for the Nice words Lars , it was my pleasure :wave
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I know it has been already been 4 weeks ago that Mark was in Amsterdam, but I finally found the time to upload a few videos at Youtube.
Here is Mark with Ruth Moody singing the songs: I Dup Up a Diamond; Seattle and Kingdom of Gold.
I have added some information and the setlist with the video!
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I hope you enjoy watching.
Fieneke
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Fieneke,
thanks for a nice upload of the video. It was enjoyable to watch ! I love IDUAD with just Mark still or with Emmy. ;)
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Thanks Fieneke, I did enjoy watching. Even IDUAD!
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Thank you Sweetsurrender and Dmg! I am glad that you both liked the video! ;D
I like the song IDUAD and don't mind if one of the ladies sings or if Mark is singing this song solo! :P
Fieneke
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Beautiful video. Thank you, Fieneke2.
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Great videos Fieneke! Thanks a lot, great watching :D
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So I finally managed to send everybody a link to the recording! Enjoy.
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So I finally managed to send everybody a link to the recording! Enjoy.
can you post the link again please ?
thanks very much :)